Brazil vs India

[Synapsid]

Both are BRICS nations. Which country will develop and be more relevant in the future?

[Cumansky]

Brazil, India is taking their time for awhile no offense their culture is what it is nothing wrong with it is very traditional and all that good stuff, but Brazil will develop before

[Adamastor]

India will be more powerful. But overall Brazil is a better place to live, if you avoid dangerous and poor areas it's not really that bad when compared to Europe/USA. India looks like a big dump almost everywhere, apart from localized regions in the Himalayas or in Southern India.

And I know both countries very well.

[Ülev]

Brazil it seems
https://www.hakaimagazine.com/news/b...eld-or-did-it/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...azil-quicktake
https://www.ft.com/content/515b6614-...c-f3fa4e77dd47

[Synapsid]

India will be more powerful. But overall Brazil is a better place to live, if you avoid dangerous and poor areas it's not really that bad when compared to Europe/USA. India looks like a big dump almost everywhere, apart from localized regions in the Himalayas or in Southern India.

And I know both countries very well.

South India is indeed more developed. Places like utter predesh seem to be a dump. Its funny how more Steppe/Iranian farmer ancestey regions are shitter than more ASI regions of India. But brazil has favelas. Why can't Brazilians demolish favelas and built apartments for the poor? In the US you ghettos but not true slums like Brazil.

[Synapsid]

Brazil, India is taking their time for awhile no offense their culture is what it is nothing wrong with it is very traditional and all that good stuff, but Brazil will develop before

Interesting. But Brazil seem more violent.

[Adamastor]

South India is indeed more developed. Places like utter predesh seem to be a dump. Its funny how more Steppe/Iranian farmer ancestey regions are shitter than more ASI regions of India. But brazil has favelas. Why can't Brazilians demolish favelas and built apartments for the poor? In the US you ghettos but not true slums like Brazil.

Because people who live outside favelas are discriminatory towards people living in favelas. Favelas were formed by free blacks and extremely multiracial people after slavery was abolished (in Brazil one could look white and be a slave if his mother was a slave), people living there descend from a long chain of poverty and exclusion.

Brazilian society is extremely discriminatory towards poor people and is organized hierarchically, that's why many rich Brazilians even (deep down) like favelas, they provide the low-skilled labourers they need to work as maids, bathroom cleaners etc. It's not uncommon to find middle class Brazilian families with 4-5 maids (generally black faveladas) working on their houses.

It's a way to maintain slavery as a social institution.

[tipirneni]

Brazil has strong ethnic communities ( 15.72% indicated Italian ancestry, 14.50% Portuguese, 6.42% Spanish, 5.51% German and 12.32% other origins, which include Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, Lithuanian, Dutch, Austrian, Swiss, French, Hungarian, Norwegian, Jew) but India has huge middle class and a big global worker population. Software industry in South India is up to the US standards. Also big ready markets for Indian products in Persian gulf and in SE Asia are very close to India compared to Brazil which exports to China and US over long distances. Better infrastructure is being designed in India for vast population in coming years.

[Cumansky]

Interesting. But Brazil seem more violent.

How do you get peace?

Thru war

[Synapsid]

Because people who live outside favelas are discriminatory towards people living in favelas. Favelas were formed by free blacks and extremely multiracial people after slavery was abolished (in Brazil one could look white and be a slave if his mother was a slave), people living there descend from a long chain of poverty and exclusion.

Brazilian society is extremely discriminatory towards poor people and is organized hierarchically, that's why many rich Brazilians even (deep down) like favelas, they provide the low-skilled labourers they need to work as maids, bathroom cleaners etc. It's not uncommon to find middle class Brazilian families with 4-5 maids (generally black faveladas) working on their houses.

It's a way to maintain slavery as a social institution.

Fuck me. They keep the favelas so it can produce labourers and maid? Can a person end in a favelas? What should be done about it?