The Colombia Thread

[Wild North]

The Muiscas were considered to be fairly advanced, along with the Maya, Aztec and Inca civilisations. Colombia wasn't as populated as those regions upon Spanish arrival but still, they reached a certain level of development.

So you can say that the Colombian mestizoes, are mostly the result of mixing of Spaniards and Chibcha peoples ?
And if, the result was a specific "Colombian mestizo type" ?

As at different regions of Central- and South America, the Spanish encounterd different Amerindian peoples, and thus with the mixing resultes in many different kinds of say "mestizo phenotypes" ?

In Colombia:
Spaniards+Chibcha

In Peru:
Spaniards+Quichua (inca)

In Chile:
Spaniards+Araucanians

In Paraguay:
Spanish-Guraníes

Argentian and Uruguay:
Population is mostly Europena descended etc...

[samario]

So you can say that the Colombian mestizoes, are mostly the result of mixing of Spaniards and Chibcha peoples ?
And if, the result was a specific "Colombian mestizo type" ?

As at different regions of Central- and South America, the Spanish encounterd different Amerindian peoples, and thus with the mixing resultes in many different kinds of say "mestizo phenotypes" ?

In Colombia:
Spaniards+Chibcha

Yes, the Native American in Colombian mestizos is mostly of Chibchan origin.

[Hajimurad]

Yes, the Native American in Colombian mestizos is mostly of Chibchan origin.

What about Venezuelans, Hondurans, Nicaraguans? Which Amerindian ethnicities formed their Mestizo communities?

[samario]

What about Venezuelans, Hondurans, Nicaraguans? Which Amerindian ethnicities formed their Mestizo communities?

Venezuelans: mostly Arawaks and Caribs.

Hondurans: Lencans (unknown origin) and Mayans.

Nicaraguans: Nahuans, Misumalpans (unknown origin) and Mangueans.

Chibchan-admixed populations live in modern day Colombia, Costa Rica and Panama for the most part. In Colombia there are a lot of indigenous tribes, but the most representative ones are indeed Chibchan in origin.

Please note this thread is dedicated to Colombia. It's not meant for discussing other countries.

[G.Tucker]

Most White: Paisa region - Bogota - Atlantic Coast

So in Medellin for example is mostly white and castizos, Manizales is even more white?

Bogota is more mestizo?

Cartagena, Barranquilla etc. is even more mestizo, maybe more SSA admixture?

[G.Tucker]

Colombia shown through pictures. You might as well ask questions about the country/post stuff (news, etc.) related to the country.

Which country is Colombia most similar to (apart from the obvious Venezuela)? Also, see above.

[samario]

Most White: Paisa region - Bogota - Atlantic Coast

So in Medellin for example is mostly white and castizos, Manizales is even more white?

Bogota is more mestizo?

Cartagena, Barranquilla etc. is even more mestizo, maybe more SSA admixture?

From most to least white:

1. Triple tie: Santanderes region [Santander (Bucaramanga) and Norte de Santander (Cúcuta)], Eje Cafetero, also known as the Coffee Growing Axis [Caldas (includes Manizales), Risaralda (Pereira), Quindío (Armenia), northern Valle del Cauca (Cartago)], Antioquia (Medellín).
2. Cundinamarca (Bogotá) and Boyacá (Tunja).
3. Eastern Plains and elsewhere east of the Cordillera Oriental [Meta (Villavicencio), Casanare (Yopal), Amazon region (Florencia), etc.].
4. Huila (Neiva) and Tolima (Ibagué).
5. Valle del Cauca (including Buenaventura) and the Atlantic Coast (including San Andrés)
6. Nariño
7. Cauca
8. Chocó

From most to least Native American.

1. Nariño
2. Cauca
3. Eastern Plains and Amazon region, especially the later
4. Cundinamarca, Boyacá, Tolima, Huila
5. Valle del Cauca and Santanderes region
6. Eje Cafetero
7. Atlantic Coast
8. Antioquia
9. Chocó

From most to least SSA

1. Chocó and the Pacific Coast
2. Atlantic Coast (inc. San Andrés), Cauca
3. Valle del Cauca (inc. Buenaventura)
4. Antioquia (incl. Urabá)
5. Eje Cafetero
6. Nariño (inc. Tumaco)
7. Tolima, Huila
8. Santanderes region
9. Cundinamarca, Eastern Plains, Amazon region
10. Boyacá

Manizales doesn't receive as much immigration as Medellín so population has remained pretty much the same throughout the years. They lean towards the Caucasian side of the spectrum. Medellín, too, but given as it is a big city, you could find more ethnically diverse people here and there. Manizales is more seclusive, traditionalistic and conservative, more so than other Paisa cities like Pereira or Medellín itself. Eje Cafetero region was settled by people from Antioquia.

Bogotanos are around 62-71% white, not too different from Paisas and Santandereanos. Overall, the Santanderes, Antioquia and Eje Cafetero regions are amongst the whitest regions in Colombia. Bogotá is not far behind.

The Atlantic Coast is very heterogenous and varies from city to city but SSA input is more noticeable than in other regions, although not as much as in the Pacific Coast where Afro-Colombians are the predominant population. Cartagena is more SSA admixed than Barranquilla and Santa Marta, you can find more mestizos and Caucasoid-mestizos in Santa Marta and Barranquilla as a general rule.

[perikolez]

This african guy made a good videos of colombian cities.

Barranquilla. Atlantic coast with an important negroid component but far from being a black or mulato city. They are mostly mestizo o trirracial.




Mañizales, a andean city mestizo city with some black-mulato inmigrants from pacific región.

[Daven]

From most to least white:

1. Triple tie: Santanderes region [Santander (Bucaramanga) and Norte de Santander (Cúcuta)], Eje Cafetero, also known as the Coffee Growing Axis [Caldas (includes Manizales), Risaralda (Pereira), Quindío (Armenia), northern Valle del Cauca (Cartago)], Antioquia (Medellín).
2. Cundinamarca (Bogotá) and Boyacá (Tunja).
3. Eastern Plains and elsewhere east of the Cordillera Oriental [Meta (Villavicencio), Casanare (Yopal), Amazon region (Florencia), etc.].
4. Huila (Neiva) and Tolima (Ibagué).
5. Valle del Cauca (including Buenaventura) and the Atlantic Coast (including San Andrés)
6. Nariño
7. Cauca
8. Chocó

From most to least Native American.

1. Nariño
2. Cauca
3. Eastern Plains and Amazon region, especially the later
4. Cundinamarca, Boyacá, Tolima, Huila
5. Valle del Cauca and Santanderes region
6. Eje Cafetero
7. Atlantic Coast
8. Antioquia
9. Chocó

From most to least SSA

1. Chocó and the Pacific Coast
2. Atlantic Coast (inc. San Andrés), Cauca
3. Valle del Cauca (inc. Buenaventura)
4. Antioquia (incl. Urabá)
5. Eje Cafetero
6. Nariño (inc. Tumaco)
7. Tolima, Huila
8. Santanderes region
9. Cundinamarca, Eastern Plains, Amazon region
10. Boyacá

Manizales doesn't receive as much immigration as Medellín so population has remained pretty much the same throughout the years. They lean towards the Caucasian side of the spectrum. Medellín, too, but given as it is a big city, you could find more ethnically diverse people here and there. Manizales is more seclusive, traditionalistic and conservative, more so than other Paisa cities like Pereira or Medellín itself. Eje Cafetero region was settled by people from Antioquia.

Bogotanos are around 62-71% white, not too different from Paisas and Santandereanos. Overall, the Santanderes, Antioquia and Eje Cafetero regions are amongst the whitest regions in Colombia. Bogotá is not far behind.

The Atlantic Coast is very heterogenous and varies from city to city but SSA input is more noticeable than in other regions, although not as much as in the Pacific Coast where Afro-Colombians are the predominant population. Cartagena is more SSA admixed than Barranquilla and Santa Marta, you can find more mestizos and Caucasoid-mestizos in Santa Marta and Barranquilla as a general rule.

What about Cali in Valle del Cauca? I though it was mostly mestizo with a large Afrocolombiano population? Valle del Cauca has an Andean part and that's where Cali is located. Most Colombians I met here tell me they are from there.

[samario]

Qué falta de delicadeza y sentido común. Colgar dos videos feos, sesgados, sin ningún tipo de rigor a mi thread informativo y con fotos de calidad sobre Colombia.

No hay moderadores aquí? Alguien me podría colaborar?

What about Cali in Valle del Cauca? I though it was mostly mestizo with a large Afrocolombiano population? Valle del Cauca has an Andean part and that's where Cali is located. Most Colombians I met here tell me they are from there.

Cali is an Andean city and it used to be mostly mestizo/white but it has received a lot of immigrants from the Pacific Coast in recent times (from the 70's onwards) reshaping its ethnic breakdown. Many of those immigrants didn't mix with the population (at least not yet) or not to the same extent as places where black presence is long established but it brings the SSA component to a higher end. It's the city with the most black people in Colombia in total numbers, not percentage-wise (that title goes to Cartagena).

Many people there remain mestizo/white, though. Also, northern and midland Valle del Cauca has fewer black people and northern Valle del Cauca is part of the Eje Cafetero/Paisa region.

The Pacific part of Valle del Cauca is overwhelmingly SSA with a mestizo/white minority. It's well connected to Andean Valle del Cauca by road, making it easier for Bonaverenses to settle there. It's also home to Colombia's most important port on the Pacific.