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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Does anyone know what Finnic people like Votes and Ingrians score?
    I don't know about DNA results, but Ingrians at least were claimed to look less Mongoloid in phenotype. The chart below stated that zero Ingrians had the Mongoloid eyefold.

    Ingrians, Izhorians, and Votic-Izhorians - in comparison to Estonians, have more of the (AL) and Baltic (YL) types - the main indicator approaches 83, the nasal indicator 68/69, and the Chukhonskiy (AQ) type practically not at all (there is no or almost no flat facial profile, less Mongolian folds and strong eyelid folds). According to Mark, representatives of the population type of the East Baltic race of the Baltic-White Sea region.
    https://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/sta...ych-w-tabeli-2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Does anyone know what Finnic people like Votes and Ingrians score?

    Ingrians are Finns from South-Central Finland whom the Swedes planted on our territory during 1600s.

    Votes are a tribe of Estonians who weren't converted to Protestantism.

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    Wondering how you look.You better open a classification thread in personal taxonomy section.
    Target: PP
    Distance: 13.9037% / 0.13903704 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    85.2 Armenian_dynasty
    10.6 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
    4.2 Phoenician_settler

    Distance to: PP
    0.13943834 Armenian_dynasty
    0.14268276 Persian_incursions
    0.15227399 Thracian_settler
    0.15294616 Mycenaean_warrior
    0.15440099 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
    0.15476057 Illyrian_settler
    0.15593106 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
    0.15607298 Phoenician_settler
    0.15677407 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Does anyone know what Finnic people like Votes and Ingrians score?
    Genetically Ingrians are like South Finns before East Finnish admixture. Votes could have been more like Estonians, but I have not seen examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pater Patota View Post
    Wondering how you look.You better open a classification thread in personal taxonomy section.
    I've thought about it but never felt really comfortable with it. I'll stick to my genetic profile for now. My phenotype is very Balkan -ish overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuningaz View Post
    I've thought about it but never felt really comfortable with it. I'll stick to my genetic profile for now. My phenotype is very Balkan -ish overall.
    So, i guess you're mainly Pontid.
    Target: PP
    Distance: 13.9037% / 0.13903704 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    85.2 Armenian_dynasty
    10.6 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
    4.2 Phoenician_settler

    Distance to: PP
    0.13943834 Armenian_dynasty
    0.14268276 Persian_incursions
    0.15227399 Thracian_settler
    0.15294616 Mycenaean_warrior
    0.15440099 Adriatic_illyrian_coast
    0.15476057 Illyrian_settler
    0.15593106 Minoan_short_med_Eastern_Crete
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    0.15677407 Minoan_short_med_Southern_Crete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pater Patota View Post
    So, i guess you're mainly Pontid.
    I think that would be fairly accurate.

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    I have researched my updated haplogroup (I-Y16419) which is part of the I2c branch (rather than I2a previously assigned by 23andme):

    Attachment 122610

    It's part of the Caucasian/Black Sea branch rather than the Balkan branch (I2a). It seems to be common among Armenians, and it came to them with proto-Indo-European conquerors (along with R1a males).

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    Somehow it seems to have gotten from Caucasus to Crete (since I am paternally Cretan).

    Here's my results with Finnish ancestry subtracted:

    Attachment 122611

    Distance: 0.0000% / 0.00000000
    50.0 Finn
    48.6 non-Finn
    1.3 Amerindian
    0.1 Noise

    And here's a PCA plot which shows Cretan Turks being between mainland Greeks and Anatolian Greeks (consistent with my own profile):

    Attachment 122612

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