R1a-Z93 & Kurds

[Halgurd]

Indo-Aryans possess a different branch of R1a (L657).

From a genetic point of view maybe, but the Mitanni elite lived thousands of years ago. Their descendants are now within the modern day Kurdish population. Plus the Hurrian link with Kurds is already well proved. We have received influence from many different ancient peoples and not only a single population.

[Zoro]

Indo-Aryans possess a different branch of R1a (L657).

Actually there is a Kurdish L657 (Indic) member in FTDNA project https://www.familytreedna.com/public...frame=yresults

U2321 India R-L657 13 25 15 11 11-14 12 12 10 15 11 33 16 9-9 11 11 25 14 20 31 12-15-15-16 11 12 19-21

[PaleoEuropean]

Possibly, but I'm sure the Medes, Parthians (and their Saka relatives), Mittani had a bigger contribution

Idk, almost the entire steppe was full of Iranianicized steppe people that emptied out westward, Azeri's are the last remnant of them in the east.

[tipirneni]

If it is Mittani or Medes connection then the R1a clades in South Asia should match the Kurds. There is also possibility of many groups having these connections.



Most in South Asia are L657 and Z2125

[Leto]

The Tajiks are far from being the most R1a. Also specify what kind of Tajiks. Afghan Tajiks are 25-30% R1a from what I've seen. Tajikistanis may be even less than that but sure at least 20%. The most R1a are the Pashtuns (40-50%) and the Kyrgyz (50-60%).

[porpozontokonto]

The Tajiks are far from being the most R1a. Also specify what kind of Tajiks. Afghan Tajiks are 25-30% R1a from what I've seen. Tajikistanis may be even less than that but sure at least 20%. The most R1a are the Pashtuns (40-50%) and the Kyrgyz (50-60%).

and altaians

[Leto]

Yeah, the Altaians and Khakas are high in R1a too.

Obviously I'm not mentioning us Slavs.

[Zoro]

Yeah, the Altaians and Khakas are high in R1a too.

Obviously I'm not mentioning us Slavs.

You bring up a good point with the slavs since R1a is pretty common with them. What subclades are they mostly?

You also got me thinking about the how much Kurds and slavs share in terms of DNA. There is a cousin of mine, a Kurmanji Kurdish guy from Iraq who gets decent E. European on some genetic tests. I think he even looks slavic but I'm not an expert on slavic phenotypes. Maybe I'll post a photo sometime to get your opinion.

[Leto]

You bring up a good point with the slavs since R1a is pretty common with them. What subclades are they mostly?

You also got me thinking about the how much Kurds and slavs share in terms of DNA. There is a cousin of mine, a Kurmanji Kurdish guy from Iraq who gets decent E. European on some genetic tests. I think he even looks slavic but I'm not an expert on slavic phenotypes. Maybe I'll post a photo sometime to get your opinion.

Slavs are almost always Z282, not Z93. I believe three main clades of the European R1a are Z280, Z284 and M458.

Kurds don't share much DNA with Slavs, I believe. Slavs don't have much Iranian (Plateau) ancestry and Kurds don't have much Steppe.

[VigVagKesalt]

Slavs are almost always Z282, not Z93. I believe three main clades of the European R1a are Z280, Z284 and M458.

Kurds don't share much DNA with Slavs, I believe. Slavs don't have much Iranian (Plateau) ancestry and Kurds don't have much Steppe.

You know in the WHG - EEF (Middle Eastern neolithic farmers) spectrum every European has Middle Eastern admixture, right? Whether from Southern Italians having 90% to Swedes having 30%.