G25: Italian regions affinity

[Rocinante]

I'm sure that the Swiss Italian average is someone with some East Med ancestry (maybe southern or central), because Swiss Italians being more southern than most of Northern Italy... Why it could be the case ? Swiss French and Germans are very northern shifted compared to that.

Target: Swiss_Italian
Distance: 1.7712% / 0.01771164
51.8 EEF
36.4 STEPPE
5.4 LEVANT
3.8 WHG
2.4 IRAN
0.2 CHG

Target: Swiss_French
Distance: 2.2606% / 0.02260603
51.4 EEF
39.2 STEPPE
9.4 WHG

Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 2.6326% / 0.02632592
47.2 EEF
43.0 STEPPE
9.8 WHG

The east med it's not that considerable in swiss italians, but they are more southern shifted, way more.

[Samnium]

Target: Swiss_Italian
Distance: 1.7712% / 0.01771164
51.8 EEF
36.4 STEPPE
5.4 LEVANT
3.8 WHG
2.4 IRAN
0.2 CHG

Target: Swiss_French
Distance: 2.2606% / 0.02260603
51.4 EEF
39.2 STEPPE
9.4 WHG

Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 2.6326% / 0.02632592
47.2 EEF
43.0 STEPPE
9.8 WHG

The east med it's not that considerable in swiss italians, but they are more southern shifted, way more.

The Swiss Italian average plot with Ligurians, I don't think that the G25 sample is representative neither for Swiss Italians or Swiss French.

[Saint-Glinglin]

I'm sure that the Swiss Italian average is someone with some East Med ancestry (maybe southern or central), because Swiss Italians being more southern than most of Northern Italy... Why it could be the case ? Swiss French and Germans are very northern shifted compared to that.

Here's the kit number of one Ticino individual (all four grand-parents from this canton) : T306192

With Mdlp K23 he scores :

Distance to: Tessin
7.19914578 Italian_North
7.92065654 Italian_Piedmont
9.05211577 Italian_Bergamo
9.48425010 Italian_Tuscan
10.89345216 Kosovar
11.96944443 Greek_Northwest
12.87191905 Spanish_Baleares_IBS
13.28121229 Greek_Thessaly
13.42639192 Albanian_Tirana
14.07128637 Greek_Peloponnesos
14.12848187 French
14.19415373 Portugese
14.24187839 Italian_Abruzzo
14.40700177 Greek_Thessaloniki
15.47283749 German-Volga
15.94098178 Spaniard
16.02163225 Bulgarian
16.34897550 Sicilian_Trapani
16.59172083 Central_Greek
16.86270441 Macedonian
16.89552308 Sicilian_West
17.11976051 Sicilian_Siracusa
17.33133867 Montenegrian
17.35224481 South_German
17.44800562 Ashkenazi

Still within the N Italian spectrum, but the influence of his 7.48 for the near eastern component can be seen.

[Samnium]

Here's the kit number of one Ticino individual (all four grand-parents from this canton) : T306192

With Mdlp K23 he scores :

Distance to: Tessin
7.19914578 Italian_North
7.92065654 Italian_Piedmont
9.05211577 Italian_Bergamo
9.48425010 Italian_Tuscan
10.89345216 Kosovar
11.96944443 Greek_Northwest
12.87191905 Spanish_Baleares_IBS
13.28121229 Greek_Thessaly
13.42639192 Albanian_Tirana
14.07128637 Greek_Peloponnesos
14.12848187 French
14.19415373 Portugese
14.24187839 Italian_Abruzzo
14.40700177 Greek_Thessaloniki
15.47283749 German-Volga
15.94098178 Spaniard
16.02163225 Bulgarian
16.34897550 Sicilian_Trapani
16.59172083 Central_Greek
16.86270441 Macedonian
16.89552308 Sicilian_West
17.11976051 Sicilian_Siracusa
17.33133867 Montenegrian
17.35224481 South_German
17.44800562 Ashkenazi

Still within the N Italian spectrum, but the influence of his 7.48 for the near eastern component can be seen.

Yes definitely. Closer to Sicilians than to West Germans.

[dududud]

Target: Swiss_Italian
Distance: 1.7712% / 0.01771164
51.8 EEF
36.4 STEPPE
5.4 LEVANT
3.8 WHG
2.4 IRAN
0.2 CHG

Target: Swiss_French
Distance: 2.2606% / 0.02260603
51.4 EEF
39.2 STEPPE
9.4 WHG

Target: Swiss_German
Distance: 2.6326% / 0.02632592
47.2 EEF
43.0 STEPPE
9.8 WHG

The east med it's not that considerable in swiss italians, but they are more southern shifted, way more.

What is the datasheet? Can you send me?

[Jana]

Distance to: Feiichy

0.03083759 Italian_Northeast
0.03470888 Italian_Veneto
0.03589001 Italian_Aosta_Valley

[Peterski]

Distance to: Feiichy

0.03083759 Italian_Northeast
0.03470888 Italian_Veneto

Yes, the Northeast & Veneto do have some minor Slavic admixture (despite what some users here often like to claim).

Although it is possible that the Slavic admixture was mediated indirectly from Austrians rather than directly from Slovenes.

Sappada and the Cimbri for example seem to be a bit Slavic-shifted as well. But it has to be from German Austrians, right?

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BTW the Bronze Age Dalmatians were closer to Bergamo than to Northeast/Veneto. because they did not have any Slavic DNA.

You are probably closer to modern Veneto and Northeast Italy, than to Bronze Age Croatia. You might want to check this in G25.

[Pine]

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[Jana]

Yes, the Northeast & Veneto do have some minor Slavic admixture (despite what some users here often like to claim).

Although it is possible that the Slavic admixture was mediated indirectly from Austrians rather than directly from Slovenes.

Sappada and the Cimbri for example seem to be a bit Slavic-shifted as well. But it has to be from German Austrians, right?

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BTW the Bronze Age Dalmatians were closer to Bergamo than to Northeast/Veneto. because they did not have any Slavic DNA.

You are probably closer to modern Veneto and Northeast Italy, than to Bronze Age Croatia. You might want to check this in G25.

Yes, I am closer to modern NE Italians than to Bronze/Iron Age Dalmatians.

Distance to: Feiichy

0.03083759 Italian_Northeast
0.03470888 Italian_Veneto
0.03813542 HRV_MBA
0.04483403 HRV_EBA
0.04768690 HRV_IA

There was Slavic settlement in Friuli, up to Isonzo river.
Example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavia_Friulana

[Token]

Yes, the Northeast & Veneto do have some minor Slavic admixture (despite what some users here often like to claim).

Although it is possible that the Slavic admixture was mediated indirectly from Austrians rather than directly from Slovenes.

Sappada and the Cimbri for example seem to be a bit Slavic-shifted as well. But it has to be from German Austrians, right?

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BTW the Bronze Age Dalmatians were closer to Bergamo than to Northeast/Veneto. because they did not have any Slavic DNA.

You are probably closer to modern Veneto and Northeast Italy, than to Bronze Age Croatia. You might want to check this in G25.

It is Austrian and probably related to the same movement that brought Cimbrian and Sappada in.