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    12 41.38%
  • Mexico

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Thread: Which population is darker on average- Moroccans or Mexicans

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    Mexicans are not even caucasoid and their soap operas are dramatic as fuck , so much crying and bitching.

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    No, Mexicans are majority mestizos, but they have a minority of caucasoid looking people/pred-Euro ones.

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    Morocco by far

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    Mexico






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    Morocco





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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoihey View Post
    Mexico






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    Morocco





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    in your moroccan pics some people are not indigenous moroccans it's like if I was taking spanish gypsies as indigenous spaniards it isn't fair here more accurate pics of moroccans :



    [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/Eb3DmG8.jpg[/IMG







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    Quote Originally Posted by Nassbean View Post
    in your moroccan pics some people are not indigenous moroccans it's like if I was taking spanish gypsies as indigenous spaniards it isn't fair here more accurate pics of moroccans :



    [IMG]https://i.imgur.com/Eb3DmG8.jpg[/IMG






    I’m taking public crowd and military photos in major cities. I’m not looking for photos of isolated tribes or of a specific region. I want to look at the entire population as a whole. That is why I post pictures of big cities where you are more likely to find people from all over Morocco and not just one community. If there are enough “non indigenous” Moroccans to effect the pigmentation of the crowd, then Morocco has some weird shit going on with it.

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    Comparing a multi-ethnic society with another multi-ethnic society

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoihey View Post
    I’m taking public crowd and military photos in major cities. I’m not looking for photos of isolated tribes or of a specific region. I want to look at the entire population as a whole. That is why I post pictures of big cities where you are more likely to find people from all over Morocco and not just one community. If there are enough “non indigenous” Moroccans to effect the pigmentation of the crowd, then Morocco has some weird shit going on with it.

    You just need to read more about Morocco because you don't really understand the genetic pool of this country you can take crowd pics of homogenous countries like Poland,Japan, England but certainly not Morocco and this is why :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haratin
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Guard

    Moroccan registers show that Ismail enslaved over 221,000 black Moroccans between 1699-1705
    --> that's more than the number of arabs who came.

    Our most recent estimated dates correlate with sub-Saharan admixture in North Africa, which is continuous during the last few centuries (from the 13th century to the 20th century, see cluster L in fig. 5), as previously suggested by historical records (Newman 1995) and genetic data (Harich et al. 2010; Henn et al. 2012). However, it is noteworthy that very precise dates are found in some cases in the 17th century in western clusters (see cluster K and M). The admixture dates in the 17th century could be the consequence of the trans-Saharan slave trade that resulted from the Ottoman rule in North Africa and the arrival of the Crown of Castile and the Portuguese Kingdom to the West African seaports in the 16th century. The Iberian presence, driven by the search of a workforce in their recent settled Atlantic territories, modified the political and socioeconomic structure of Western Africa. This also intensified traffic through trans-Saharan routes to North Africa after the emergence of the sugar industry in this region and the Atlantic territories (Newman 1995; Oliver and Atmore 2001; Da Mosto 2003). Comparison of inferred ancestry proportions between the autosomes and X chromosome in Cluster M is indicative of sex-biased admixture with an overabundance of males with Middle Eastern (Syrian-like) ancestry and females with sub-Saharan African (Yoruba-like) ancestry. Moreover, we infer a lower proportion of sub-Saharan ancestry older than previously described in all admixture events dated from the first century B.C., which could be attributed to more ancient slave trade during the Roman or Islamic periods, such as the servile Haratin population of Nilo-Saharan origin in Berber groups such as the Sanhadja and Zenata (Newman 1995). Caution is warranted, however, as there are serious difficulties in reliably estimating the proportions contributed by each source population in the admixture events, mainly because the lack of a proper ancestral North African population. In our analyses, we have considered the population from Tunisia Chenini as the best proxy, but genetic drift in Chenini samples due to isolation and interbreeding might substantially underestimate the contribution of the autochthonous ancestral groups in extant North African populations.
    https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article...80801#58231020

    ". It is worthmentioning that, compared with current North African samples,IAM and KEB do not show any sub-Saharan African ancestry in theMEGA-HGDP ADMIXTURE analysis, suggesting that trans-Saharan migrations occurred after Neolithic times. This could bein agreement with the analysis of present-day genome-wide datafrom Morocco, which estimated a migration of western Africanorigin into Morocco only ~1,200 y ago"
    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ant_and_Europe

    "A proportion of 1/4 to 1/2 of North African female pool is made of typical sub-Saharan lineages, in higher frequencies as geographic proximity to sub-Saharan Africa increases. The Sahara was a strong geographical barrier against gene flow, at least since 5,000 years ago, when desertification affected a larger region, but the Arab trans-Saharan slave trade could have facilitate enormously this migration of lineages." "The interpolation analyses and complete sequencing of present mtDNA sub-Saharan lineages observed in North Africa support the genetic impact of recent trans-Saharan migrations, namely the slave trade initiated by the Arab conquest of North Africa in the seventh century. Sub-Saharan people did not leave traces in the North African maternal gene pool for the time of its settlement, some 40,000 years ago."
    https://bmcevolbiol.biomedcentral.co...71-2148-10-138

    so you have to be careful when you take those crowds pics only berbers are indigenous moroccans not haratin or their descendants. I live in belgium it doesn't mean I'm belgian or indigenous.

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    Mexicans

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