54 cases of Coronavirus in Italy

**Samnium** · 02-25-2020, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker

Not percentage wise. If people would catch the coronavirus in the same numbers as they caught the flu, then we better start digging mass graves.

Around half of the patients in the scientific studies (so potentially not all patients but only the most severe cases that go to the hospital) needed oxygen and advanced cure, hospitals can't manage thousands and thousands severe cases, it's simply not possible materially.

And there are also the regular patients aside, that need the same care as those with Covid2019.

Not to mention that oxygen for medical purpose is very expensive and difficult to get in great quantities.

With all these parameters considered I think we can say that the case fatality rate of the epidemy would be far worse than 2,3% .

**MinervaItalica** · 02-25-2020, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by pulstar

Perhaps its just me but I'm always skeptic about such news. I'm pretty sure they say such things so they can calm the general population.

Yes, just you. Those are official medical sources why should they lie? We are not Iran...

**Graham** · 02-25-2020, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by MinervaItalica

Those victims are all old and with previous severe complications.

The knock on effect is massive. A load of grandparents will die or most could end up in hospital for weeks.

It will properly test countries health systems if it spreads to millions.

The NHS throughout the UK has been poorly run in the last decade and struggles for beds in a normal winter now. Can Italy cope with bed numbers if it worsens? China built the temporary hospital in weeks for example.

**Samnium** · 02-25-2020, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by Graham

The knock on effect is massive. A load of grandparents will die or most could end up in hospital for weeks.

It will properly test countries health systems if it spreads to millions.

The NHS throughout the UK has been poorly run in the last decade and struggles for beds in a normal winter now. Can Italy cope with bed numbers if it worsens? China built the temporary hospital in weeks for example.

The "hospitals" that China built aren't hospitals, but rather prisons for dying/ill people. There is barely any medical material inside and physicians are few. There's no separation between confirmed cases and suspected, they are also incubators for the spreading of Covid2019.

**~~Bosniensis~~** · 02-25-2020, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Aldaris

Don't get too comfortable way too soon. The time needed to produce one new viral generation is just a few hours - god knows what properties will that thing have after a while with such a rapid evolution.

If Serbs get infected it will mutate in a such way that it will be unstoppable.

**~~Gaska~~** · 02-25-2020, 11:02 AM

An Italian has tested positive this morning in the Canary Islands and the health authorities have closed the hotel with more than 1000 guests who have to be in quarantine for 14 days. Everyone has gone crazy, the virus is less deadly than the common flu. In Europe we will not be able to stop the spread of the disease even by temporarily suspending Schengen. The European health system is much better than the Chinese and people have to be reassured. At the moment this has only served for Italy to enter into economic recession.

**Samnium** · 02-25-2020, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Gaska

An Italian has tested positive this morning in the Canary Islands and the health authorities have closed the hotel with more than 1000 guests who have to be in quarantine for 14 days.

14 days are nowhere near to be sufficient, there are patients that had a 27 days incubation period.

Everyone has gone crazy, the virus is less deadly than the common flu.

What are you saying ? The common flu as less than 1% case fatality rate whereas Covid2019 is between 2% and 3%, but I think this number will increase with overwhelming of health infrastructures.