Roma are NOT majority South Asian. Please stop portraying them as such

[Rocinante]

How much EEF+CHG+STEPPE+WHG they have?

[Duffmannn]

Wait, Iberian Gitanos are only 10-20% Indian? That's pretty low. They look at least 50%.

Spanish gypsies are a mix of proper gypsies and persecuted-antisocial people from the XVI century, mainly moriscos, which were genetically full spanish, that was a form to avoid the expulsión from Spain, larping as gypsy. That's the reason why the provinces with more gypsies coincide very well with those with many moriscos, and that they use guitars and flamenco as music genre.

Still they are very distinguible from mainstream spaniards most times.

[Mortimer]

I learned in elementary school that roma origins from Dom which means men of lowly ancestry and they are from India

[WeirdLookingFellow]

No, there was another study shared here by ixulescu which studied some Balkan Gyosies which showed them to be in the 25% S Indian range, with the lowest of 19% and highest of around 43% or so.

At 19% this makes a grandparent to be around 3 quarters S. indian; for a population that arrived in the 15
4th-15th century this makes them barely mixed.

[Leto]

No, there was another study shared here by ixulescu which studied some Balkan Gyosies which showed them to be in the 25% S Indian range, with the lowest of 19% and highest of around 43% or so.

At 19% this makes a grandparent to be around 3 quarters S. indian; for a population that arrived in the 15
4th-15th century this makes them barely mixed.

25% South Indian is too low for India. Maybe the Jatts are in that range but most of India has a lot more.
I think Gypsies are dark because they also have a good amount of Gedrosia/Iranian type ancestry. Persians are not exactly pale-skinned for example.

[Nomansman]

25% South Indian is too low for India. Maybe the Jatts are in that range but most of India has a lot more.
I think Gypsies are dark because they also have a good amount of Gedrosia/Iranian type ancestry. Persians are not exactly pale-skinned for example.

gypsies have as high gedrosian as turks actually. Balkan and other euro ones.

[SharpFork]

Wait, Iberian Gitanos are only 10-20% Indian? That's pretty low. They look at least 50%.

I can't tell exactly how Gypsies from each country look like but compared to direct Indian/White mixes they look darker, probably because of MENA and Iranic ancestry instead of having only European ancestry on top of their original one.

[Leto]

I can't tell exactly how Gypsies from each country look like but compared to direct Indian/White mixes they look darker, probably because of MENA and Iranic ancestry instead of having only European ancestry on top of their original one.

You probably have a similar amount of SA as Balkan Gypsies being half Bangladeshi. Would love to see your results including Y DNA. There's a chance that you're one of us

[SharpFork]

You probably have a similar amount of SA as Balkan Gypsies being half Bangladeshi. Would love to see your results including Y DNA. There's a chance that you're one of us

Probably even more for Gypsies with 25% South Asian ancestry, I'm not sure how genetics differ between social classes in Muslim South Asian societies but my ancestry from that side while by no means poor it's not exactly Brahmin-like either, so I would have around 20-25% South Indian, which is honestly quite high.

How much South Indian would the original founding population for Gypsies be?

Edit: Y-DNA wise I wonder, R1a is 20% in Bangladesh, J about 10% I think.

[Leto]

Probably even more for Gypsies with 25% South Asian ancestry, I'm not sure how genetics differ between social classes in Muslim South Asian societies but my ancestry from that side while by no means poor it's not exactly Brahmin-like either, so I would have around 20-25% South Indian, which is honestly quite high.

How much South Indian would the original founding population for Gypsies be?

Edit: Y-DNA wise I wonder, R1a is 20% in Bangladesh, J about 10% I think.

Bangladeshi average is 45% on HarappaWorld. Your father is prolly 45-50% S-Indian and 10-15% Mongoloid.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...e-Bangladeshis