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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    Target: Aspar_scaled
    Distance: 2.1792% / 0.02179239
    69.6 Thracian
    26.0 Slav
    4.4 Greek

    Distance to: Aspar_scaled
    0.03947483 Thracian:Mld
    0.06390446 Thracian:I5769
    0.08878260 Greek:Mycen
    0.11471739 Slav:Av2
    0.12389989 SlavA29
    0.24260051 TurkicA89

    Goes to show that the Macedonian average in Davidski's spreadsheet is rubbish when the average is the same as the result of the Macedonian from the northern most point of the country. As I am from the southern most point, logically would be that the average should be something between mine and JohnnyP resaults. I said it many times, Macedonian3 in the spreadsheet is an ethnic Serb, not a Macedonian, but Davidski uses this sample anyway... Than again, this models make little sense when I end up with less Greek admixture than someone from the Northern part of the country.
    JohnnyP has 41.2% Slav, no matter what amount Greek scores he is northern shifted than you. Your admixtures identical with Thracian samples so you got a high amount of Thracian instead of balancing that admixture with Greek+Slav. He has more Slavic input than you, so he needed a component to balance his East-Med admixture which is Greek in this case. Both of your results are as expected, nothing wrong here.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Target: Bosniensis_scaled
    Distance: 2.5943% / 0.02594333
    47.6 Slav
    41.6 Thracian
    10.8 Greek

    Missing Illyrian Samples.
    You will continue to get Thracian even if i add Illyrian. -proven by experience- The only way to measure Illyrian/Slav scores is by removing Thracian completely and in this case, you will get a huge amount of Greek also. So Thracian samples seem more representative for now.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Target: scaled
    Distance: 2.6473% / 0.02647305
    50.4 Thracian
    49.6 Slav

    Pretty 50/50

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    Distance to: CDG_scaled
    0.07495711 Slav:Av2
    0.09338268 SlavA29
    0.09614908 Thracian:Mld
    0.14036009 Thracian:I5769
    0.16566389 Greek:Mycen
    0.24700727 TurkicA89

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 7.4957% / 0.07495711 | ADC: 2x
    100.0 Slav

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 5.9478% / 0.05947767 | ADC: 1x
    72.8 Slav
    27.2 Thracian

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 5.7965% / 0.05796451 | ADC: 0.5x
    64.6 Slav
    35.4 Thracian

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 5.7859% / 0.05785886 | ADC: 0.25x
    62.4 Slav
    37.6 Thracian

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 5.7853% / 0.05785251
    61.8 Slav
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    You will continue to get Thracian even if i add Illyrian. -proven by experience- The only way to measure Illyrian/Slav scores is by removing Thracian completely and in this case, you will get a huge amount of Greek also. So Thracian samples seem more representative for now.
    Damn Slavs!

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    73.0 Slav
    27.0 Thracian

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    Target: Andrei_scaled
    Distance: 3.1006% / 0.03100630
    46.0 Slav
    44.2 Thracian
    7.0 Greek
    2.8 Turkic

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    Target: MrG_scaled
    Distance: 3.0528% / 0.03052756
    52.2 Thracian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    I said it many times, Macedonian3 in the spreadsheet is an ethnic Serb, not a Macedonian
    i think so too. Bosnian, Serbian and Moldavian samples in G25 are too south plotting, and Montenegrins, Macedonians and Albanians are too north.

    there are 10-20 samples available for each ethnicity, but he added only 5 of each to the sheet, and not very representative ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    Target: Aspar_scaled
    Distance: 2.1792% / 0.02179239
    69.6 Thracian
    26.0 Slav
    4.4 Greek

    Distance to: Aspar_scaled
    0.03947483 Thracian:Mld
    0.06390446 Thracian:I5769
    0.08878260 Greek:Mycen
    0.11471739 Slav:Av2
    0.12389989 SlavA29
    0.24260051 TurkicA89

    Goes to show that the Macedonian average in Davidski's spreadsheet is rubbish when the average is the same as the result of the Macedonian from the northern most point of the country. As I am from the southern most point, logically would be that the average should be something between mine and JohnnyP resaults. I said it many times, Macedonian3 in the spreadsheet is an ethnic Serb, not a Macedonian, but Davidski uses this sample anyway... Than again, this models make little sense when I end up with less Greek admixture than someone from the Northern part of the country.
    Even that im not full Macedonian from one parent, i saw Macedonian sample from Kumanovo on GedMatch calculators on Vahaduo - Eurogenes k13 updated its called Macedonian_North is similar to you i would say.
    Last edited by JohnnyP; 02-24-2020 at 08:42 AM.

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