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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSecret View Post
    That's not siding with Nazis. We stayed neutral until the end.

    However the Dutch:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/27/w...holocaust.html
    Nice try, lad. You had a special treaty with the Germans. The railways however, something the Jew York Times would never mention, were placed under German military orders. Those who refused to obey - could be shot with the same extended to their families.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Nice try, lad. You had a special treaty with the Germans. The railways however, something the Jew York Times would never mention, were placed under German military orders. Those who refused to obey - could be shot with the same extended to their families.
    You have been found guilty and made pay millions doesn't matter. In the war Turkey saved thousands of Jews from Nazi Germany via railways in secret. That's the difference between us. Now we are saving millions of refugees.

    Ambassador of Turkey to France:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behi%C3%A7_Erkin

    Behiç Erkin (1876 in Constantinople,[1] Ottoman Empire – November 11, 1961 in Istanbul, Turkey) was a Turkish career officer, first director (1920–1926) of the Turkish State Railways, nationalized under his auspices, statesman and diplomat of the Turkish Republic, who helped save almost 20,000 ethnic Jews in France during World War II. He was Minister of Public Works, 1926–1928, and deputy for three terms; and an ambassador. He served as Turkey's ambassador to Budapest between 1928–1939, and to Paris and Vichy between August 1939-August 1943. As Turkish ambassador in France under the German Occupation after June 1940, Erkin used the power of his office and nation's neutrality to save Jews who could document a Turkish connection, however slight, from the Holocaust.

    Other Turkish diplomats in France and elsewhere, were also active in this rescue effort. The consulate staff under Necdet Kent in Marseille was particularly involved.

    "Turkish passport"
    https://www.france24.com/en/20111227...film-passports

    Former Coca-Cola CEO Muhtar Kent's father:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necdet_Kent

    İsmail Necdet Kent (1 January 1911 – 20 September 2002) was a Turkish diplomat, who risked his life to save Jews during World War II. While vice-consul in Marseilles, France between 1941 and 1944, he gave documents of citizenship to dozens of Turkish Jews living in France who did not have proper identity papers, to save them from deportation to the Nazi gas chambers.

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    However the Dutch:

    Srebrenitsa massacre:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49042372

    Nazi railway in Netherlands:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e-in-holocaust

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    Yea yea thumbs down. That's only ad hominem and proves nothing.

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    And can you also tell us what happened when they wenton strike on 17 September 1944 ? Of course subhumans like Turks who killed Armenians would never tell us that story. I mean 16.000 to 24.000 deaths mean nothing to a people whose entire history is one of inflicting genocide on neighbours that should never have been their neighbours in the first place since they don't belong in Europe. And the Turks don't even have the balls or honour to admit to that (like with the Armenians)

    After the national railways complied with the exiled Dutch government's appeal for a railway strike starting September 1944 to further the Allied liberation efforts, the German administration (under Wehrmachtbefehlshaber Friedrich Christiansen) retaliated by placing an embargo on all food transports to the western Netherlands. By the time the embargo was partially lifted in early November 1944, allowing restricted food transports over water, the unusually early and harsh winter had already set in. The canals froze over and became impassable for barges.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_...2%80%9345#Food



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    I do hope that the Syrian Arab Army would free Idlib from Al-Qaeda for good one day. If Erdogan had any brains left he would actually help Assad which he later make a deal with him in sending the Syrian refugees back to Syria to Idlib and other regions that borders Turkey instead.

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    And while the Netherlands were occupied.. the Turks aided and abetted the Nazi's every step of the way under the guise of neutrality:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuri_Killigil#Caucasus
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B...C_Emir_Erkilet



    It's the Turks who are Nazi remnants:

    “Turkey began World War II bound to Britain and France by the military alliance of October 1939, moved to non-belligerency in June 1940 after the fall of France, and adopted a policy of ‘active neutrality’ in the spring of 1941 after German occupation of the Balkans and the conclusion of a German-Turkish Treaty of Friendship in June 1941,” notes a 1998 report on Holocaust restitution by the House Committee on Banking and Financial Services.

    The report cites a November 1943 assessment by German Munitions Minister Albert Speer “that much of Germany's manufacture of armaments would come to a halt within 10 months if Turkey's chromite exports to Germany were ended.”
    In the meantime, the Germans sold ingots of absolute evil in Turkey.
    “Two German banks with branches in Turkey, the Deutsche Bank and the Dresdner Bank, took advantage of the high prices on the Turkish free gold market to sell looted gold provided by the Reichsbank in return for foreign currency, particularly Swiss francs,” the report says. “Some of the gold provided by the Reichsbank came from the infamous ‘Melmer account’ in which the SS deposited the gold jewelry, coins, bars, and dental fillings robbed from its victims at the killing centers and concentration camps.”
    The Reichsbank was the central financial institution of Germany. Deutsche Bank would go on to become the lone financial institution in the 1990’s willing to risk making huge loans to Donald Trump.
    Even as he condemns the Kurds for failing to do what they could not possibly have done at Normandy without a nation-state of their own, Trump says nothing about Deutsche Bank’s Nazi past or about Turkey’s continued sales of chromium ore to Germany until April 1944. Turkey finally returned to our side in August 1944—two months after Normandy—when it appeared that the Nazis were going to lose after all.
    The report adds, “Other German gold acquired by Turkey during and after the War included coins and ingots from the account of German Foreign Minister Joachim Ribbentrop at the Reichsbank, which had been stocked with gold looted from occupied Europe.”

    At war’s end, Turkey had done exactly nothing to assist the Allies besides no longer selling chromium to the Nazis. Turkey nonetheless argued that since it had been at war with Germany, it should not be expected to turn over whatever Nazi wealth it retained.
    “Turkey, an 11th hour ally, returned no looted gold… and turned over no money,” the report notes.
    Turkey also kept the money it made selling the Nazis chromium ore that kept the war going. The report says Turkey only stopped after President Franklin Roosevelt threatened Turkey with “economic war.”
    To quote their good friend Adolf Hitler:


    Unsere Stärke ist unsere Schnelligkeit und unsere Brutalität. Dschingis Khan hat Millionen Frauen und Kinder in den Tod gejagt, bewußt und fröhlichen Herzens. Die Geschichte sieht in ihm nur den großen Staatengründer. Was die schwache westeuropäische Zivilisation über mich behauptet, ist gleichgültig. Ich habe den Befehl gegeben – und ich lasse jeden füsilieren, der auch nur ein Wort der Kritik äußert – daß das Kriegsziel nicht im Erreichen von bestimmten Linien, sondern in der physischen Vernichtung des Gegners besteht. So habe ich, einstweilen nur im Osten, meine Totenkopfverbände bereitgestellt mit dem Befehl, unbarmherzig und mitleidslos Mann, Weib und Kind polnischer Abstammung und Sprache in den Tod zu schicken. Nur so gewinnen wir den Lebensraum, den wir brauchen. Wer redet heute noch von der Vernichtung der Armenier?

    Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter – with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees in him solely the founder of a state. It's a matter of indifference to me what a weak western European civilization will say about me. I have issued the command – and I'll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad – that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formation in readiness – for the present only in the East – with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/wwii-l...with-the-nazis



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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    I do hope that the Syrian Arab Army would free Idlib from Al-Qaeda for good one day. If Erdogan had any brains left he would actually help Assad which he later make a deal with him in sending the Syrian refugees back to Syria to Idlib and other regions that borders Turkey instead.
    I hope they'll keep quite a few Turks as prisoners of war and kill scores more. Should be fun to have them watch beg NATO with NATO telling them to take a hike. Then they will turn towards Russia ? The Russians will laugh them in the face.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    And can you also tell us what happened when they wenton strike on 17 September 1944 ? Of course subhumans like Turks who killed Armenians would never tell us that story. I mean 16.000 to 24.000 deaths mean nothing to a people whose entire history is one of inflicting genocide on neighbours that should never have been their neighbours in the first place since they don't belong in Europe. And the Turks don't even have the balls or honour to admit to that (like with the Armenians)



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_...2%80%9345#Food
    What this has to do with Turkey and our subject? Turkey is responsible for that too? We might not have had the chance to help everyone. What can you do sometimes?

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    And since the Turks and their faux-neutrality supported the Nazi German war economy - they also supplied the means under the Holocaust could be conducted and in lenghtening the war, they helping in creating the conditions that brought about the Dutch famine of 1944-1945. In other words: Turkey is complicit in both drama's. The Allies in 1945 didn't finish the job: they should have ended with Spain and Turkey.



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