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    Bedouins before Islam were Jews, by blood

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    what's their haplogroups?
    Mostly E-V13 as far as I heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    what's their haplogroups?
    What Bosniensis said above

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    i can't wait to see the i2 guy's autosomal
    What if he is “south Slavic” like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    What Bosniensis said above
    Things do not change a lot however, even if we came from let's say France, Poland or Ukraine.

    Haplogroup I IS the oldest in the entire Europe, older than Greeks and Romans.

    To say that we are aliens on Balkans as some so easily proclaim is a mere lunacy.

    We are older than Indo-Europeans.

    Greek Philosophers said multiple times: Illyrians are the oldest people in Europe and Triballians are the oldest people in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Many Bosnians are muslims from all over Balkans, not necessarily native to Bosnia (most are though)
    Roman impact in Bosnia must have been very, very small.
    the nMonte algorithm prefers Romans over BGR_IA for the Bosnian average. and completely ignores HRV_IA.



    with the individal results are quite different:


    the Albanian average gets interesting results. that distance is extremely low.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Why would I be Idiot?

    I hope you drop spoon to the floor next time you dine soup.
    Lulz this made me laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Things do not change a lot however, even if we came from let's say France, Poland or Ukraine.

    Haplogroup I IS the oldest in the entire Europe, older than Greeks and Romans.

    To say that we are aliens on Balkans as some so easily proclaim is a mere lunacy.

    We are older than Indo-Europeans.

    Greek Philosophers said multiple times: Illyrians are the oldest people in Europe and Triballians are the oldest people in Europe.
    Yeah I know, just those “Scythians” on MTA weren’t much different from us either but those are older samples I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    What if he is “south Slavic” like?
    than maybe we already picked up southern admixture while passing through Dacia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipotes...ndesti_culture

    but i doubt it , anthropological research shows that Slavs and Vlachs didn't mix much until the 1200s. and dna results of modern Serbs also seem to confirm it.

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    Before than anything we should decide if more Neolithic admixture(like Albanians) equal to more Thracian/Illyrian admixture or not. What if they are predominantly Steppe and couldn't have great importance to the gene pool of the region but only political control? Isn't BGR_IA at the same parallel with this theory?

    There are two definitions of Thracians and only one(Med-Neolithic) remains today, the other(can be identified as Celtic look) highly replaced with Slavic. Have you ever thought why Neolithic components remained but we can't distinguish the exact influence of the communities which gave Thracian - Illyrian name to the farmers?
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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