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    Match from Debrecen, Hungry with Hungarian name . This is not the same as the Székelys match I had posted a couple weeks ago.

    Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
    K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 30.68
    2 North_Atlantic 28.04
    3 West_Med 16.01
    4 East_Med 11.87
    5 West_Asian 8.39
    6 East_Asian 3.39
    7 South_Asian 0.57
    8 Red_Sea 0.56
    9 Amerindian 0.28
    10 Northeast_African 0.21

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Serbian 5.76
    2 Moldavian 5.76
    3 Hungarian 6.29
    4 Croatian 6.43
    5 Romanian 9.4
    6 Austrian 9.42
    7 East_German 10.33
    8 Bulgarian 11.7
    9 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.6
    10 South_Polish 12.74
    11 Ukrainian 13.57
    12 West_German 15.76
    13 Polish 16.4
    14 South_Dutch 17.13
    15 Southwest_Russian 17.54
    16 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.69
    17 French 18.22
    18 Russian_Smolensk 18.89
    19 North_German 19.14
    20 Estonian_Polish 19.45

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 53.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.1% North_Italian @ 3.23
    2 79.1% Croatian + 20.9% North_Italian @ 3.58
    3 63.4% Ukrainian + 36.6% Tuscan @ 3.59
    4 74.7% Serbian + 25.3% Ukrainian @ 3.69
    5 54.4% Serbian + 45.6% Croatian @ 3.69
    6 81.2% Croatian + 18.8% Tuscan @ 3.71
    7 83.7% Moldavian + 16.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.77
    8 73.7% Serbian + 26.3% South_Polish @ 3.78
    9 68.8% South_Polish + 31.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.85
    10 78.8% Serbian + 21.2% Polish @ 3.85
    11 80.6% Moldavian + 19.4% French @ 3.85
    12 84.9% Moldavian + 15.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.87
    13 85.7% Serbian + 14.3% La_Brana-1 @ 3.87
    14 85% Moldavian + 15% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.88
    15 65.1% South_Polish + 34.9% Tuscan @ 3.88
    16 54.1% Southwest_Russian + 45.9% North_Italian @ 3.89
    17 84.6% Moldavian + 15.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.89
    18 74% Serbian + 26% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.92
    19 60.8% Ukrainian + 39.2% North_Italian @ 3.92
    20 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    If you and me had a baby, it could pass as Szekely.
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    This is fun.
    Mmmhm. Finally some REAL anthropology action up in this motherfucker.


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    Very interesting PCA plot map for Hungarians and half Hungarians. Turul Karom and Benyzero share the same spot, while TheMaestro, who is half Albanian plots little to the left, between Romania Maramures and Romania Crisana, but didn't fit into the image anymore.


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    A few people asked for it, so here's my dad's results.

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    Over 5% mong like I expected. Seems 5% mongoloid range is quite common among Szekelys and Csangos, seen already few results like that!

    Updated K13

    Distance to: Kökény_Father

    5.12259700 Hungarian_Transylvania
    5.37602083 Székely
    5.50882020 Csángó-Ceangău
    7.72601450 Croat_West
    7.76937578 Romania_Crisana
    8.25080602 Croat_South
    8.25984261 Hungarian
    8.38880206 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    8.39043503 Romania_Moldavia_North
    8.40013690 Serb_central
    8.41496286 Serb
    8.44707642 Serb_north
    8.46038415 Hungarian_Alföld
    8.60835060 Croat
    8.65495812 Romania_Maramures
    8.86790843 Romania_Moldavia_South
    8.91000000 Romania_Transylvania
    9.32967845 Montenegrin
    9.43648769 Moldova_Centre
    9.46341904 Bosniak
    9.50913771 Moldova_average
    9.77580687 Croat_North
    9.83549185 Romania_average
    10.04232045 Croat_East
    10.21310433 Slovenian

    Distance to: Kökény_Father

    3.95864933 80.60% Csángó-Ceangău + 19.40% IT_Aosta_Valley
    3.98871656 73.60% Csángó-Ceangău + 26.40% Swiss_French
    4.26139432 82.40% Csángó-Ceangău + 17.60% France_Provence
    4.29051868 78.80% Csángó-Ceangău + 21.20% Swiss_German2
    4.32210253 82.80% Csángó-Ceangău + 17.20% France_Central
    4.32511635 97.20% Hungarian_Transylvania + 2.80% Mayan
    4.32527080 84.40% Csángó-Ceangău + 15.60% French
    4.32849908 88.00% Csángó-Ceangău + 12.00% Spanish_Andalucia
    4.33054717 86.60% Csángó-Ceangău + 13.40% Spanish_Cataluna
    4.34098023 23.20% Swiss_French + 76.80% Székely
    4.34123112 23.20% Irish_Connacht + 76.80% Romania_Moldavia_South
    4.35408303 77.80% Csángó-Ceangău + 22.20% Swiss_German
    4.35996625 97.60% Hungarian_Transylvania + 2.40% Karitiana
    4.36679950 51.40% Moldova_North + 48.60% Swiss_French
    4.37753036 88.20% Csángó-Ceangău + 11.80% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
    4.38042254 87.80% Csángó-Ceangău + 12.20% Spanish_Murcia
    4.38159425 82.40% Csángó-Ceangău + 17.60% IT_Veneto
    4.38445725 97.40% Hungarian_Transylvania + 2.60% Pima
    4.38999993 86.40% Csángó-Ceangău + 13.60% France_south
    4.39260947 79.80% Hungarian_Transylvania + 20.20% Swiss_French
    4.39312492 87.80% Csángó-Ceangău + 12.20% Spanish_Valencia
    4.39924012 22.80% Irish_Ulster + 77.20% Romania_Moldavia_South
    4.39929093 89.40% Csángó-Ceangău + 10.60% Spanish_Aragon
    4.40502556 87.40% Csángó-Ceangău + 12.60% Spanish_Extremadura
    4.41284915 88.00% Csángó-Ceangău + 12.00% Spanish

    Target: Kökény_Father
    Distance: 2.2086% / 2.20861346 | ADC: 0.25x RC

    53.7 Csángó-Ceangău
    29.0 Swiss_French
    8.1 Székely
    3.9 Dargin
    3.0 Romania_Crisana
    2.3 Karitiana

    Target: Kökény_Father
    Distance: 2.2532% / 2.25320530 | ADC: 0.5x RC

    53.3 Csángó-Ceangău
    28.4 Swiss_French
    11.7 Hungarian_Transylvania
    4.0 Dargin
    2.6 Mayan

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    Feiichy can you model him with your k13 model for SE Europeans? Im curious what results he get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 17571imre View Post
    Feiichy can you model him with your k13 model for SE Europeans? Im curious what results he get.
    Yup I think Stears father would have very similar results like him, based on Stears results.

    Target: Kökény_Father
    Distance: 2.7495% / 2.74948008

    28.9 Slavic
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    26.8 Vlach
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Over 5% mong like I expected. Seems 5% mongoloid range is quite common among Szekelys and Csangos, seen already few results like that!
    Mong score of my fam (If you count Amerindian as mong):

    Dad: 5.59%
    Mom: 3.96%
    Me: 4.73%

    I think 4% as average sounds legit for Székelys. I believe there are ones out there that could reach as high as 6 and maybe 7% (like those Csángó brothers).

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    Hungarian enough?

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 East_German 5.37
    2 Austrian 5.45
    3 North_German 5.84
    4 Swedish 7.63
    5 West_German 7.9
    6 Danish 8.24
    7 South_Dutch 8.31
    8 North_Dutch 8.55
    9 North_Swedish 9.08
    10 Norwegian 9.18
    11 Hungarian 9.41
    12 Southeast_English 10.08

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kökény View Post
    Mong score of my fam (If you count Amerindian as mong):

    Dad: 5.59%
    Mom: 3.96%
    Me: 4.73%

    I think 4% as average sounds legit for Székelys. I believe there are ones out there that could reach as high as 6 and maybe 7% (like those Csángó brothers).
    Yes, Csangos get a lot.

    N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan Mong.
    27.88 29.54 14.62 8.53 10.50 0.99 3.04 0 2.96 0.42 1.34 0.17 0 3.38
    26.96 29.64 13.81 7.10 10.90 3.80 0.80 1.40 3.06 1.43 0.38 0.72 0 5.89
    24.80 29.69 15.01 4.95 17.36 2.11 1.29 1.52 1.14 1.49 1.34 0.17 0 4.15
    26.45 29.53 12.87 9.46 13.01 1.33 2.15 1.44 3.26 0 0 0.10 0.41 4.70
    29.17 26.08 15.65 8.38 14.21 2.01 0.00 0.98 2.84 0.20 0.48 0 0 4.02
    25.48 30.36 14.85 6.50 16.45 2.02 1.10 0 1.77 0.35 0 0 1.03 2.12
    27.31 31.86 15.19 6.32 12.79 1.22 1.76 0 1.60 1.41 0.54 0 0 3.01
    22.56 27.12 17.27 10.76 16.56 1.82 2.30 0 0.91 0 0.71 0 0 0.91
    30.53 30.04 16.00 7.12 7.63 1.12 0.08 4.67 0.40 2.40 0 0 0 7.47
    30.43 28.99 16.32 8.42 9.31 0.45 0 3.02 3.06 0 0 0 0 6.08
    28.07 30.12 16.06 7.70 9.12 0.84 2.48 2.93 1.70 0.99 0 0 0 5.62
    26.32 30.26 13.30 5.96 15.85 1.21 2.64 0.14 2.89 0.79 0.12 0 0.52 3.82
    27.17 28.96 15.51 9.12 10.16 0.92 0 1.71 3.99 1.59 0.52 0 0.35 7.29
    29.48 28.70 14.86 10.96 8.93 0.82 0 1.39 2.63 0.88 0.84 0.45 0.07 4.90
    25.78 30.39 18.39 9.96 8.84 1.99 0.40 0 3.35 0 0.58 0.31 0 3.35
    26.99 29.84 17.59 11.27 7.93 1.00 0 0 3.31 0 1.12 0.94 0 3.31
    26.99 31.26 15.96 7.95 9.47 1.73 2.50 0.45 1.88 1.81 0 0 0 4.14
    28.58 31.10 14.68 5.15 11.26 4.58 0 0.49 2.66 1.34 0 0 0.15 4.49
    34.11 26.31 15.23 11.25 2.53 2.53 0 1.80 3.81 1.32 0.60 0 0.49 6.93
    30.74 27.38 16.33 10.14 8.63 1.45 0 1.51 3.17 0.16 0.46 0 0 4.84
    29.03 27.46 15.13 11.51 10.92 0.97 0 0 3.09 0.00 1.88 0 0 3.09
    23.05 31.75 14.40 12.35 10.93 2.17 0 1.08 2.53 0.59 0.44 0.70 0 4.20
    31.07 29.72 13.91 6.97 12.29 0 1.39 1.12 2.22 0.87 0 0 0.45 4.21
    29.78 28.24 12.95 10.70 11.44 1.28 0.77 0 3.02 1.67 0 0.16 0 4.69
    26.97 32.60 16.01 9.33 7.24 1.73 0.57 1.53 3.10 0.56 0.35 0 0 5.19
    24.77 32.67 15.87 11.70 9.56 0 0 1.80 2.02 0.81 0.78 0 0 4.63

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