Why didn't the Romanians get fully Slavicized linguistically?

[ixulescu]

I see there’s a town called Targoviste on that map crn vlach posted. It means market place in Slavic

It has the same meaning in Romanian (when contracted to târg).

In fact Targoviste was at some point the capital of Wallachia

[Dick]

It has the same meaning in Romanian (when contracted to târg).

In fact Targoviste was at some point the capital of Wallachia

Im guessing it was founded by Burglars?

[Nurzat]

haha talk about paranoia

I used to spend summers as a child in Moldovan villages, I know very well how people spoke there. I was returning home with a thick accent

most probably not in Vaslui, Neamt or Botosani, though. and stop patronizing Moldovans, you're not one and you are ridiculous to say words like ogheal aren't of widespread use in rural Moldova, it proves you have no clue. plus my point wasn't they're used all over, but there's a lot of pockets retaining archaic forms and you're just frustrated denying it.

Some of those words must be regional even for Moldavian as I think I know my Moldavian and never heard of zămnic and I remember the word hrincă from the writings of Ion Creangă. Chirpici and harbuz are not Slavic. The serfs in Moldova were Malo Russians and Hungarians. Most of them Malo Russians. That is well documented. A lot of the villages were boyar property and the peasants were serfs. That's why Moldovans of today are more related genetically with Ukrainians from Podolia and Galitia than with Walahians or Transilvanians. In some villages in Vaslui the liver is called „mai”, a world of Hungarian origin. When it's cooked it's called măiuț. There is a habit that is in Moldavia to use diminutives for foods. There is also a dish there called Plăcintă de mai meaning Liver pie, made out of pork meat, liver and vegetables.

my mom is from Vaslui county rural side, I speak that language. yes, mai is liver and other words from Hungarian are used too, like tău for small pond and ilău for nicovală and there were some others as well, I don't remember them now. basically all Catholics in Moldova are Hungarian in origin, most of them Romanianized in the meantime but a lot of them have Hungarian last names in their Romanianized form (Antoci, Lucaci, Horvat, Miclăuș, Covaci, Andraș etc).

[artsi]

because it's pockets of Moldova that kept the more archaic forms, and it's not only Vaslui, but Botosani and parts of Neamt too, also parts of Galati. the point is this was spoken all over Moldova not long time ago but with Romanian schooling and Moldovan/rural-shaming it was lost and it will die out in the villages still speaking it as well. annexation of Moldova brought a cultural genocide of Moldovan language and identity so spare us of imperialistic colonial Romanian propaganda. we can all agree Moldovans in Romania got Romanianized but at least respect the fact they were another nation not long ago and pockets of Moldova kept it to this day, unfortunately only the poorest villages that cannot do much with it, can they

Amen!

I'm surprised that you know this. How come? You are not Moldovan, right? Even most of Moldovans in Moldova were brainwashed and have no clue about the cultural genocide they were/are subjected to. Moldovans of Republic of Moldova are subjected to cultural genocide in their own country with an obvious purpose. Sadly, because of that, Moldova has no future.

[ixulescu]

Im guessing it was founded by Burglars?

sounds like a good place to be Burglar

[ixulescu]

Amen!

I'm surprised that you know this. How come? You are not Moldovan, right? Even most of Moldovans in Moldova were brainwashed and have no clue about the cultural genocide they were/are subjected to. Moldovans of Republic of Moldova are subjected to cultural genocide in their own country with an obvious purpose. Sadly, because of that, Moldova has no future.

are you from RM?

[Dick]

sounds like a good place to be Burglar

Lol auto correct on my phone. I meant bulgar

[ixulescu]

Lol auto correct on my phone. I meant bulgar

no, it was actually founded by Saxons - they were often traders in the area.

[Ranger0075]

I just perceived I can understand Romanian lul

România este un stat situat în sud-estul Europei Centrale, pe cursul inferior al Dunării, la nord de peninsula Balcanică și la țărmul nord-vestic al Mării Negre.[7] Pe teritoriul ei este situată aproape toată suprafața Deltei Dunării și partea sudică și centrală a Munților Carpați. Se învecinează cu Bulgaria la sud, Serbia la sud-vest, Ungaria la nord-vest, Ucraina la nord și est și Republica Moldova la est, iar țărmul Mării Negre se găsește la sud-est.

De-a lungul istoriei, diferite porțiuni ale teritoriului de astăzi al României au fost în componența sau sub administrația Daciei, Imperiului Roman, Imperiului Otoman, Imperiului Rus și a celui Austro-Ungar.

[Hajimurad]

I think Romanians didn't Slavicized because of their late immigration (after Mongol invasion) to Carpathian basin. Although Romanian historians stressed territorial continuity between Dacia and Romania historical and linguistic evidences suggest otherwise. Dacians are indeed ancestors of Romanians and Moldavians but continuity is only biological and cultural, not territorial.
Romanized Dacians were deported by Aurelianus to south of Danube, Free Dacians - by Diocletian. After these relocations depopulated land became homeland of Goths and Gepides, who went to Italy and replaced by Slavs, who in turn were conquered by Avars and Magyars.
After Mongol invasion Hungarian kings repopulated Transylvania with Vlachs (descendants of Dacians and ancestors of Romanians) from Serbia and Bulgaria, "Saxons" from Alsace, Palatinate and Swabia and Szeklers (Magyar military colonists). Wallachia and Moldova in turn were resettled by Vlachs from Transylvania (Fagaras and Maramures). Some Vlach families converted to Catholicism (as example - Matthew Hunyadi whose earliest ancestors bore names like Radul and Serban and were Orthodox).
Because Vlachs were nomad shepherds they had little contact with Slavs and preserve Latin-derived language and Christianity.