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    Chagatai Dynasty: C-M217

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chagatai_Khanate

    The Chagatai Khanate (Mongolian: Цагаадайн Хаант Улс Tsagadaina Khaanat Ulus) or Chagatai Ulus[6] was a Mongol and later Turkicized khanate[7][8] that comprised the lands ruled by Chagatai Khan,[9] second son of Genghis Khan, and his descendants and successors. At its height in the late 13th century, the khanate extended from the Amu Darya south of the Aral Sea to the Altai Mountains in the border of modern-day Mongolia and China, roughly corresponding to the defunct Qara Khitai Empire.[10] Initially the rulers of the Chagatai Khanate recognized the supremacy of the Great Khan,[11] but by the reign of Kublai Khan, Ghiyas-ud-din Baraq no longer obeyed the emperor's orders. During the mid-14th century, the Chagatais lost Transoxania to the Timurids. The reduced realm came to be known as Moghulistan, which lasted until the late 15th century when it broke off into the Yarkent Khanate and Turpan Khanate. In 1680, the remaining Chagatai domains lost their independence to the Dzungar Khanate, and in 1705, the last Chagatai khan was removed from power, ending the dynasty of Chagatai.

    According to an analysis of the paternal lineages of Tungusic males conducted by Zerjal et al. (2003), Genghis Khan, founder and Great Khan of the Mongol Empire, and his patrilineal descendants are believed to have belonged to Haplogroup C3 (M217).


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    xiongnu elite was Q1a

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    Quote Originally Posted by porpozontokonto View Post
    xiongnu elite was Q1a
    it is true but we do not say xiongnu have one elite family.

    Over the past decade, Chinese archaeologists have published several reviews regarding the results of excavations in Xinjiang. They imply the genetic composition of Xiongnu's supreme ruling class. Particularly interesting are the tombs in the cemetery at Heigouliang, Xinjiang (the Black Gouliang cemetery, also known as the summer palace of the Xiongnu king), east of the Barkol basin, near the city of Hami. By typing results of DNA samples during the excavation of one of the tombs, it was determined that of the 12 men: 6 Q1a* (not Q1a1-M120, not Q1a1b-M25, not Q1a2-M3), 4 Q1b-M378, 2 Q* (not Q1a, not Q1b: unable to determine subclades):[4]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kmakkmak View Post
    it is true but we do not say xiongnu have one elite family.

    Over the past decade, Chinese archaeologists have published several reviews regarding the results of excavations in Xinjiang. They imply the genetic composition of Xiongnu's supreme ruling class. Particularly interesting are the tombs in the cemetery at Heigouliang, Xinjiang (the Black Gouliang cemetery, also known as the summer palace of the Xiongnu king), east of the Barkol basin, near the city of Hami. By typing results of DNA samples during the excavation of one of the tombs, it was determined that of the 12 men: 6 Q1a* (not Q1a1-M120, not Q1a1b-M25, not Q1a2-M3), 4 Q1b-M378, 2 Q* (not Q1a, not Q1b: unable to determine subclades):[4]
    huns had an yeniseian ruling class so it's no surprise all of the elite men are Q.

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    Quote Originally Posted by porpozontokonto View Post
    xiongnu elite was Q1a
    R-Z2124 was found in a Xiongnu elite from NE Mongolia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axlredneck View Post
    R-Z2124 was found in a Xiongnu elite from NE Mongolia.
    which burial? name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kmakkmak View Post
    which burial? name?
    Duurlig Nars.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20091844/

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    LBA Hovsgol - R-Z2123

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    Quote Originally Posted by axlredneck View Post
    R-Z2124 was found in a Xiongnu elite from NE Mongolia.
    muh ancestor

    nevertheless most of them were Q

    see below
    Quote Originally Posted by Kmakkmak View Post
    6 Q1a* (not Q1a1-M120, not Q1a1b-M25, not Q1a2-M3), 4 Q1b-M378, 2 Q* (not Q1a, not Q1b: unable to determine subclades):[4]

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