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    I have a question. My Euro genes Balto Slavic score (55.39%) is the highest ive seen for a Russian. Ive seen Lithuanians with high Balto Slavic scores aswell. And my ancestry dna has linked me with the Lithuanian community. So my question is, is there any Lithuanian admixture present in my results based of this (even minimal)? My Paternal Grandfathers ancestors are from the Belarus/Polish/Lithuanian boarder, so it can be a possiblity. My surename is Polish (Urovski, Уровский), although to my fathers knowledge we only had orthodox russians and some belarusians in our family.

    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 30.33
    2 Eastern_Euro 25.06
    3 Atlantic 18.2
    4 North_Sea 13.98
    5 West_Med 4.99
    6 West_Asian 3.16
    7 East_Med 1.95
    8 South_Asian 0.74
    9 Siberian 0.45
    10 Southeast_Asian 0.41
    11 Red_Sea 0.33
    12 Sub-Saharan 0.3
    13 Amerindian 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Estonian_Polish 4.7
    2 Russian_Smolensk 5.41
    3 Southwest_Russian 5.51
    4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.86
    5 Belorussian 6.06
    6 Polish 8.28
    7 Lithuanian 8.92
    8 Kargopol_Russian 8.94
    9 South_Polish 9.69
    10 Erzya 10.06
    11 Ukrainian 10.36
    12 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.4
    13 Estonian 12.11
    14 Croatian 13.22
    15 East_Finnish 14.73
    16 Moldavian 15.5
    17 Finnish 17.13
    18 Austrian 17.35
    19 Hungarian 17.53
    20 Southwest_Finnish 17.62

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 94.2% Estonian_Polish + 5.8% Chuvash @ 4.39
    2 84.2% Estonian_Polish + 15.8% Erzya @ 4.39
    3 95.4% Estonian_Polish + 4.6% Mari @ 4.4
    4 97% Estonian_Polish + 3% Kurdish @ 4.43
    5 96.5% Estonian_Polish + 3.5% Turkmen @ 4.43
    6 96.8% Estonian_Polish + 3.2% Azeri @ 4.44
    7 96.8% Estonian_Polish + 3.2% Turkish @ 4.45
    8 97.1% Estonian_Polish + 2.9% Iranian @ 4.45
    9 97.4% Estonian_Polish + 2.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.47
    10 97% Estonian_Polish + 3% Kabardin @ 4.47
    11 97% Estonian_Polish + 3% MA-1 @ 4.48
    12 97.1% Estonian_Polish + 2.9% Balkar @ 4.48
    13 97.2% Estonian_Polish + 2.8% Cyprian @ 4.48
    14 97.2% Estonian_Polish + 2.8% Adygei @ 4.48
    15 97.5% Estonian_Polish + 2.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.48
    16 97.5% Estonian_Polish + 2.5% Assyrian @ 4.49
    17 97.4% Estonian_Polish + 2.6% Balochi @ 4.49
    18 97.5% Estonian_Polish + 2.5% Armenian @ 4.5
    19 97.6% Estonian_Polish + 2.4% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.5
    20 97.5% Estonian_Polish + 2.5% Brahui @ 4.5
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    That's normal, just a slightly higher Baltic influence.

    My father's K15

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 30.86
    2 Eastern_Euro 25.79
    3 Atlantic 17.1
    4 North_Sea 16.36
    5 West_Med 4.58
    6 West_Asian 3.1
    7 South_Asian 0.73
    8 Amerindian 0.64
    9 Southeast_Asian 0.4
    10 Siberian 0.38

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Estonian_Polish 3.67
    2 Southwest_Russian 4.75
    3 Belorussian 5.25
    4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.41
    5 Russian_Smolensk 5.41
    6 Lithuanian 7.5
    7 Polish 7.57
    8 Kargopol_Russian 7.85
    9 Erzya 8.99
    10 South_Polish 9.37
    11 Ukrainian 9.67
    12 Estonian 10.27
    13 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.94
    14 East_Finnish 13.57
    15 Croatian 14.12
    16 Finnish 15.95
    17 Moldavian 16.22
    18 Southwest_Finnish 16.74
    19 Hungarian 17.83
    20 La_Brana-1 17.99

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 79.1% Estonian_Polish + 20.9% Erzya @ 2.91
    2 94% Estonian_Polish + 6% Chuvash @ 3.21
    3 95.4% Estonian_Polish + 4.6% Mari @ 3.26
    4 81.2% Estonian_Polish + 18.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.27
    5 96.9% Estonian_Polish + 3.1% MA-1 @ 3.35
    6 96.1% Estonian_Polish + 3.9% Tatar @ 3.57
    7 83.3% Estonian_Polish + 16.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.58
    8 98.9% Estonian_Polish + 1.1% Selkup @ 3.58
    9 98.6% Estonian_Polish + 1.4% Shors @ 3.59
    10 98.5% Estonian_Polish + 1.5% Burusho @ 3.59
    11 80.4% Estonian_Polish + 19.6% Southwest_Russian @ 3.59
    12 98.6% Estonian_Polish + 1.4% Kalash @ 3.6
    13 99% Estonian_Polish + 1% Ket @ 3.61
    14 98.9% Estonian_Polish + 1.1% Hakas @ 3.62
    15 98.7% Estonian_Polish + 1.3% Lezgin @ 3.62
    16 98.7% Estonian_Polish + 1.3% Tabassaran @ 3.62
    17 98.9% Estonian_Polish + 1.1% Chechen @ 3.63
    18 98.9% Estonian_Polish + 1.1% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.63
    19 99% Estonian_Polish + 1% Kabardin @ 3.64
    20 99% Estonian_Polish + 1% Balkar @ 3.64

    EUtest

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 SOUTH_BALTIC 31.88
    2 EAST_EURO 27.5
    3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.59
    4 ATLANTIC 11.58
    5 WEST_MED 6.03
    6 WEST_ASIAN 4.95
    7 SOUTH_ASIAN 1.04
    8 EAST_ASIAN 0.23
    9 EAST_MED 0.1
    10 SIBERIAN 0.1

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Northwest_Russian 4.5
    2 Ukrainian-Russian 5.1
    3 Belorussian 5.16
    4 West_Russian 5.37
    5 UA 6.98
    6 LIT 7.78
    7 PL 7.95
    8 EE 8.01
    9 East_Russian 9.69
    10 North_Russian 9.76
    11 Erzya 11.34
    12 East_Finnish 13.04
    13 South_Finnish 14.14
    14 HU 18.25
    15 North_Swedish 20.31
    16 Udmurt 21.17
    17 Komi 21.69
    18 AT 22.02
    19 Serbian 23.29
    20 South_&_Central_Swedish 23.45

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 94.7% Northwest_Russian + 5.3% Kalash @ 3.37
    2 94.3% Northwest_Russian + 5.7% Lezgin @ 3.56
    3 57.1% Northwest_Russian + 42.9% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.6
    4 95.5% Northwest_Russian + 4.5% Burusho @ 3.69
    5 95.7% Northwest_Russian + 4.3% Balochi @ 3.74
    6 95.7% Northwest_Russian + 4.3% Brahui @ 3.76
    7 78.3% Northwest_Russian + 21.7% East_Russian @ 3.76
    8 96% Northwest_Russian + 4% GE @ 3.79
    9 96.3% Northwest_Russian + 3.7% Sindhi @ 3.85
    10 61.7% Northwest_Russian + 38.3% West_Russian @ 3.87
    11 82.8% Northwest_Russian + 17.2% Erzya @ 3.92
    12 67.7% Ukrainian-Russian + 32.3% LIT @ 3.96
    13 97.2% Northwest_Russian + 2.8% IN @ 4.03
    14 97.3% Northwest_Russian + 2.7% Gujarati @ 4.04
    15 96.5% Northwest_Russian + 3.5% Kurdish @ 4.09
    16 96.4% Northwest_Russian + 3.6% IR @ 4.09
    17 82.4% Northwest_Russian + 17.6% North_Russian @ 4.09
    18 97.4% Northwest_Russian + 2.6% Bangladeshi @ 4.1
    19 96.8% Northwest_Russian + 3.2% Armenian @ 4.11
    20 96.4% Northwest_Russian + 3.6% TR @ 4.12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    That's normal, just a slightly higher Baltic influence.

    My father's K15

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 30.86
    2 Eastern_Euro 25.79
    3 Atlantic 17.1
    4 North_Sea 16.36
    5 West_Med 4.58
    6 West_Asian 3.1
    7 South_Asian 0.73
    8 Amerindian 0.64
    9 Southeast_Asian 0.4
    10 Siberian 0.38

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Estonian_Polish 3.67
    2 Southwest_Russian 4.75
    3 Belorussian 5.25
    4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.41
    5 Russian_Smolensk 5.41
    6 Lithuanian 7.5
    7 Polish 7.57
    8 Kargopol_Russian 7.85
    9 Erzya 8.99
    10 South_Polish 9.37
    11 Ukrainian 9.67
    12 Estonian 10.27
    13 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.94
    14 East_Finnish 13.57
    15 Croatian 14.12
    16 Finnish 15.95
    17 Moldavian 16.22
    18 Southwest_Finnish 16.74
    19 Hungarian 17.83
    20 La_Brana-1 17.99

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 79.1% Estonian_Polish + 20.9% Erzya @ 2.91
    2 94% Estonian_Polish + 6% Chuvash @ 3.21
    3 95.4% Estonian_Polish + 4.6% Mari @ 3.26
    4 81.2% Estonian_Polish + 18.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.27
    5 96.9% Estonian_Polish + 3.1% MA-1 @ 3.35
    6 96.1% Estonian_Polish + 3.9% Tatar @ 3.57
    7 83.3% Estonian_Polish + 16.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.58
    8 98.9% Estonian_Polish + 1.1% Selkup @ 3.58
    9 98.6% Estonian_Polish + 1.4% Shors @ 3.59
    10 98.5% Estonian_Polish + 1.5% Burusho @ 3.59
    11 80.4% Estonian_Polish + 19.6% Southwest_Russian @ 3.59
    12 98.6% Estonian_Polish + 1.4% Kalash @ 3.6
    13 99% Estonian_Polish + 1% Ket @ 3.61
    14 98.9% Estonian_Polish + 1.1% Hakas @ 3.62
    15 98.7% Estonian_Polish + 1.3% Lezgin @ 3.62
    16 98.7% Estonian_Polish + 1.3% Tabassaran @ 3.62
    17 98.9% Estonian_Polish + 1.1% Chechen @ 3.63
    18 98.9% Estonian_Polish + 1.1% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.63
    19 99% Estonian_Polish + 1% Kabardin @ 3.64
    20 99% Estonian_Polish + 1% Balkar @ 3.64

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 SOUTH_BALTIC 31.88
    2 EAST_EURO 27.5
    3 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.59
    4 ATLANTIC 11.58
    5 WEST_MED 6.03
    6 WEST_ASIAN 4.95
    7 SOUTH_ASIAN 1.04
    8 EAST_ASIAN 0.23
    9 EAST_MED 0.1
    10 SIBERIAN 0.1

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Northwest_Russian 4.5
    2 Ukrainian-Russian 5.1
    3 Belorussian 5.16
    4 West_Russian 5.37
    5 UA 6.98
    6 LIT 7.78
    7 PL 7.95
    8 EE 8.01
    9 East_Russian 9.69
    10 North_Russian 9.76
    11 Erzya 11.34
    12 East_Finnish 13.04
    13 South_Finnish 14.14
    14 HU 18.25
    15 North_Swedish 20.31
    16 Udmurt 21.17
    17 Komi 21.69
    18 AT 22.02
    19 Serbian 23.29
    20 South_&_Central_Swedish 23.45

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 94.7% Northwest_Russian + 5.3% Kalash @ 3.37
    2 94.3% Northwest_Russian + 5.7% Lezgin @ 3.56
    3 57.1% Northwest_Russian + 42.9% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.6
    4 95.5% Northwest_Russian + 4.5% Burusho @ 3.69
    5 95.7% Northwest_Russian + 4.3% Balochi @ 3.74
    6 95.7% Northwest_Russian + 4.3% Brahui @ 3.76
    7 78.3% Northwest_Russian + 21.7% East_Russian @ 3.76
    8 96% Northwest_Russian + 4% GE @ 3.79
    9 96.3% Northwest_Russian + 3.7% Sindhi @ 3.85
    10 61.7% Northwest_Russian + 38.3% West_Russian @ 3.87
    11 82.8% Northwest_Russian + 17.2% Erzya @ 3.92
    12 67.7% Ukrainian-Russian + 32.3% LIT @ 3.96
    13 97.2% Northwest_Russian + 2.8% IN @ 4.03
    14 97.3% Northwest_Russian + 2.7% Gujarati @ 4.04
    15 96.5% Northwest_Russian + 3.5% Kurdish @ 4.09
    16 96.4% Northwest_Russian + 3.6% IR @ 4.09
    17 82.4% Northwest_Russian + 17.6% North_Russian @ 4.09
    18 97.4% Northwest_Russian + 2.6% Bangladeshi @ 4.1
    19 96.8% Northwest_Russian + 3.2% Armenian @ 4.11
    20 96.4% Northwest_Russian + 3.6% TR @ 4.12
    Would the increased baltic be an indicator of distant lithuanian admixture? Its just peaked my interest cause ancestry dna has linked me to the Lithuanian community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rurov0 View Post
    Would the increased baltic be an indicator of distant lithuanian admixture? Its just peaked my interest cause ancestry dna has linked me to the Lithuanian community.
    Well, Western Russian and especially Belorussians have a lot of Baltic ancestry, not necessarily from Lithuania proper as Baltic tribes were more numerous and more dispersed in medieval times than today. But more importantly Ancestry DNA is not particularly suitable for Eastern Europeans because the company is mainly geared towards US and UK customers and they aren't good at distinguishing Russians from West Slavs or Balts. You can see even Hungarians and Balkan Slavs getting huge amounts of "Eastern Europe and Russia". So I wouldn't read too much into that.

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    You don't get east asian and you get very low siberian. So, you probably have polish converted ancestors. Russians usually get some little asian ancestry in gedmatch. Or maybe I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodGol View Post
    You don't get east asian and you get very low siberian. So, you probably have polish converted ancestors. Russians usually get some little asian ancestry in gedmatch. Or maybe I'm wrong.
    He does get 2+% mongoloid on Gedmatch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rurov0 View Post
    I have a question. My Euro genes Balto Slavic score (55.39%) is the highest ive seen for a Russian. Ive seen Lithuanians with high Balto Slavic scores aswell. And my ancestry dna has linked me with the Lithuanian community. So my question is, is there any Lithuanian admixture present in my results based of this (even minimal)? My Paternal Grandfathers ancestors are from the Belarus/Polish/Lithuanian boarder, so it can be a possiblity. My surename is Polish (Urovski, Уровский), although to my fathers knowledge we only had orthodox russians and some belarusians in our family.

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 30.33
    2 Eastern_Euro 25.06
    3 Atlantic 18.2
    4 North_Sea 13.98
    5 West_Med 4.99
    6 West_Asian 3.16
    7 East_Med 1.95
    8 South_Asian 0.74
    9 Siberian 0.45
    10 Southeast_Asian 0.41
    11 Red_Sea 0.33
    12 Sub-Saharan 0.3
    13 Amerindian 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Estonian_Polish 4.7
    2 Russian_Smolensk 5.41
    3 Southwest_Russian 5.51
    4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.86
    5 Belorussian 6.06
    6 Polish 8.28
    7 Lithuanian 8.92
    8 Kargopol_Russian 8.94
    9 South_Polish 9.69
    10 Erzya 10.06
    11 Ukrainian 10.36
    12 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.4
    13 Estonian 12.11
    14 Croatian 13.22
    15 East_Finnish 14.73
    16 Moldavian 15.5
    17 Finnish 17.13
    18 Austrian 17.35
    19 Hungarian 17.53
    20 Southwest_Finnish 17.62

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 94.2% Estonian_Polish + 5.8% Chuvash @ 4.39
    2 84.2% Estonian_Polish + 15.8% Erzya @ 4.39
    3 95.4% Estonian_Polish + 4.6% Mari @ 4.4
    4 97% Estonian_Polish + 3% Kurdish @ 4.43
    5 96.5% Estonian_Polish + 3.5% Turkmen @ 4.43
    6 96.8% Estonian_Polish + 3.2% Azeri @ 4.44
    7 96.8% Estonian_Polish + 3.2% Turkish @ 4.45
    8 97.1% Estonian_Polish + 2.9% Iranian @ 4.45
    9 97.4% Estonian_Polish + 2.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.47
    10 97% Estonian_Polish + 3% Kabardin @ 4.47
    11 97% Estonian_Polish + 3% MA-1 @ 4.48
    12 97.1% Estonian_Polish + 2.9% Balkar @ 4.48
    13 97.2% Estonian_Polish + 2.8% Cyprian @ 4.48
    14 97.2% Estonian_Polish + 2.8% Adygei @ 4.48
    15 97.5% Estonian_Polish + 2.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.48
    16 97.5% Estonian_Polish + 2.5% Assyrian @ 4.49
    17 97.4% Estonian_Polish + 2.6% Balochi @ 4.49
    18 97.5% Estonian_Polish + 2.5% Armenian @ 4.5
    19 97.6% Estonian_Polish + 2.4% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.5
    20 97.5% Estonian_Polish + 2.5% Brahui @ 4.5
    We share DNA.

    Largest segment = 4.6 cM

    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 34.9 cM (0.973 Pct)

    10 shared segments found for this comparison.

    446431 SNPs used for this comparison.

    52.071 Pct SNPs are full identical

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavic Italian View Post
    We share DNA.

    Largest segment = 4.6 cM

    Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 34.9 cM (0.973 Pct)

    10 shared segments found for this comparison.

    446431 SNPs used for this comparison.

    52.071 Pct SNPs are full identical
    Oh thats cool. So we're very distant relatives?

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    Your baltic is fine, what is high is your east euro, which usually peaks in where your ancestry from, so its fine Imo. Edit: Sorry I missed the calculator, your baltic is high af too

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    Quote Originally Posted by rurov0 View Post
    Oh thats cool. So we're very distant relatives?
    Yep.

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