DNA results of my friend

[Kaspias]

Second one... From the same village as my father. Also 3-4th cousin according to FTDNA


Ancestry is from Komotini, Western Thrace.


FTDNA is a joke



Eurogenes K13

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21.38
2 Baltic 18.24
3 West_Asian 16.99
4 North_Atlantic 13.43
5 West_Med 10.68
6 Siberian 10.03
7 East_Asian 3
8 South_Asian 1.88
9 Red_Sea 1.88
10 Amerindian 1.41
11 Sub-Saharan 1.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 15.81
2 Greek_Thessaly 16
3 Romanian 16.95
4 Central_Greek 18.03
5 Italian_Abruzzo 18.94
6 East_Sicilian 19.03
7 Nogay 19.04
8 Ashkenazi 19.35
9 Serbian 19.94
10 Turkish 20.72
11 West_Sicilian 20.99
12 South_Italian 21.27
13 Turkmen 21.77
14 Moldavian 22.48
15 Tuscan 22.66
16 Tatar 23.05
17 Azeri 23.74
18 Afghan_Turkmen 24.04
19 Kumyk 24.05
20 Sephardic_Jewish 24.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.3% Tatar + 45.7% Cyprian @ 4.02
2 54.6% Tatar + 45.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.63
3 58% Tatar + 42% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.7
4 59.2% Tatar + 40.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.89
5 60.9% Greek_Thessaly + 39.1% Afghan_Turkmen @ 5.58
6 58.9% Tatar + 41.1% Samaritan @ 5.68
7 58.2% Tatar + 41.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.75
8 56.7% Tatar + 43.3% Assyrian @ 5.76
9 53.9% Cyprian + 46.1% Chuvash @ 5.86
10 57.8% Tatar + 42.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 6
11 55.1% Tatar + 44.9% Syrian @ 6.01
12 52.9% Turkish + 47.1% Tatar @ 6.21
13 61.6% Bulgarian + 38.4% Afghan_Turkmen @ 6.41
14 54.6% Tatar + 45.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 6.6
15 53.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 46.3% Chuvash @ 6.68
16 56.5% Cyprian + 43.5% Mari @ 6.7
17 52% Tatar + 48% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.72
18 56.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 43.6% Chuvash @ 6.89
19 64.7% Greek_Thessaly + 35.3% Uzbeki @ 6.89
20 63% South_Italian + 37% Mari @ 6.96

Dodecad K12b

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.49
2 North_European 24.3
3 Atlantic_Med 15.73
4 Gedrosia 9.4
5 Siberian 8.11
6 Southwest_Asian 7.16
7 East_Asian 6.47
8 South_Asian 1.37
9 Northwest_African 0.49
10 East_African 0.48

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 17.33
2 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 17.41
3 Romanians (Behar) 18.26
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 18.34
5 Greek (Dodecad) 19.85
6 O_Italian (Dodecad) 20.41
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 21.98
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 22.62
9 C_Italian (Dodecad) 23.03
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.35
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.65
12 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.72
13 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 24.24
14 Tuscan (HGDP) 24.45
15 Turks (Behar) 24.62
16 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 24.69
17 TSI30 (Metspalu) 25
18 N_Italian (Dodecad) 26.64
19 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 26.71
20 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 27.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 37.7% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.42
2 60.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 39.1% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.76
3 69.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 30.7% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.01
4 68.1% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 31.9% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.39
5 61.3% Romanians (Behar) + 38.7% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.46
6 68.5% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 31.5% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 6.78
7 59.1% Greek (Dodecad) + 40.9% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.88
8 68.4% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 31.6% French (HGDP) @ 6.96
9 68.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 31.2% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 7
10 68.5% Romanians (Behar) + 31.5% Hazara (HGDP) @ 7.17
11 68.9% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 31.1% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 7.26
12 70.9% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 29.1% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 7.35
13 71.3% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 28.7% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 7.43
14 70.6% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 29.4% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 7.43
15 70.1% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 29.9% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 7.45
16 68.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 31.2% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 7.52
17 58% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 42% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 7.54
18 62% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 38% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 7.55
19 72% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 28% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 7.62
20 69.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 30.8% Uygur (HGDP) @ 7.64

PuntDNAL K15

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 27.2
2 Mediterranean 24.29
3 Caucasian 22.77
4 E_Asian 6.89
5 SW_Asian 6.63
6 Siberian 6.27
7 Horn_Of_Africa 2.04
8 Beringian 1.41
9 S_Indian 1.1
10 Amerindian 0.76
11 Oceanian 0.64

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Central 14.59
2 Greek_Thessaly 14.92
3 Albanian 16.99
4 Tuscan 17.5
5 Bulgarian 18.1
6 Bosnian 18.1
7 Macedonian 18.25
8 Nogai 18.36
9 Montenegrin 18.45
10 Ashkenazy_Jew 18.58
11 Romanian 18.87
12 Italian 19.64
13 Sicilian 20.22
14 Sephardic_Jew 21.14
15 Turkmen 22.03
16 Serbian 22.58
17 Brazilian 22.74
18 Turk_Kayseri 23.88
19 Tadjik 24.16
20 Chechen 24.79

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.3% Greek_Thessaly + 29.7% Hazara @ 3.72
2 69.1% Greek_Thessaly + 30.9% Uyghur @ 3.84
3 69.8% Greek_Central + 30.2% Uyghur @ 4.32
4 71% Greek_Central + 29% Hazara @ 4.35
5 55.2% Bulgarian + 44.8% Turkmen @ 4.54
6 54.7% Montenegrin + 45.3% Turkmen @ 4.7
7 54.1% Romanian + 45.9% Turkmen @ 4.73
8 55% Macedonian + 45% Turkmen @ 4.75
9 55.3% Turkmen + 44.7% Spaniard @ 4.87
10 65.2% Greek_Thessaly + 34.8% Uzbek @ 5.06
11 55.6% Sephardic_Jew + 44.4% Bashkir @ 5.13
12 67.8% Albanian + 32.2% Hazara @ 5.39
13 53.1% Italian + 46.9% Turkmen @ 5.42
14 60.2% Nogai + 39.8% Spaniard @ 5.46
15 53% Bashkir + 47% Cypriot @ 5.51
16 50.4% Bulgarian + 49.6% Nogai @ 5.51
17 50.1% Nogai + 49.9% Montenegrin @ 5.51
18 66% Greek_Central + 34% Uzbek @ 5.57
19 66.6% Albanian + 33.4% Uyghur @ 5.6
20 55.4% Turkmen + 44.6% French @ 5.61

[Kaspias]

Eurogenes K13 Updated Vahaduo

Distance to: K
4.39233423 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
4.72234052 Turk_Komotini
7.74249314 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
9.21748881 Turk_Edirne
9.91239628 Turk_Xanthi
10.22516015 Turk_Targovishte
10.57351881 Turk_Kardzhali-West
11.10493584 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
11.17590265 Turk_Kardzhali-East
11.38253047 Turk_Stara-Zagora
11.51115546 Turk_Drama
11.84339901 Turk_Burgas
12.95638067 Turk_Crete
13.00451460 Pomak_Drama
13.15672452 Pomak_Komotini
13.34549737 Turk_Razgrad
13.34990637 Turk_Kazanlik
13.58796894 Turk_Kavala
13.84749075 Turk_Dobrich
13.89256276 Turk_North_West
14.03101208 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
14.05934209 Greek_Istanbul
14.16556035 Turk_Sliven-Alevi
14.32830299 GR_Macedonia
14.42203176 Turk_Thessaloniki

Target: K
Distance: 1.5886% / 1.58855122 | ADC: 0.25x
86.8 Turk_Komotini
7.2 Afghan_Turkmen
3.8 Nogay
2.2 Selkup

Target: K
Distance: 2.3133% / 2.31328788 | ADC: 0.5x
62.4 Turk_Komotini
28.2 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
9.4 Afghan_Turkmen

Target: K
Distance: 4.2966% / 4.29660970 | ADC: 1x
82.0 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
18.0 Turk_Komotini

[Thracian]

I hope his results will be more reliable after the update.

He scores almost 15% East Eurasian. That's huge! I guess, lower South Asian and higher Baltic indicates Tatar-like ancestry.

[Leto]

Holy shit, that Mongoloid score! Is it noticeable in his looks?
Post Harappa too.

5 Siberian 8.11
7 East_Asian 6.47
= 14.58

4 E_Asian 6.89
6 Siberian 6.27
8 Beringian 1.41
= 14.57%

[Hapanuwa]

Wow, he's Turkic af

[Kaspias]

I hope his results will be more reliable after the update.

He scores almost 15% East Eurasian. That's huge! I guess, lower South Asian and higher Baltic indicates Tatar-like ancestry.

I'm not going to care FTDNA since i don't even have a hope on them We have been discussing about possible Tatar ancestry but he definitely doesn't know anything about it. There is a potential for migration from Bulgaria to Greece like in my father's case, but these migrations usually from Northern Thrace. I was able find a connection with Northern Bulgaria too though.

Do you any suggestions while investigating Tatar ancestry? It seems calculators usually prefer to give Turkmen before Tatar. Anything else?

Holy shit, that Mongoloid score! Is it noticeable in his looks?
Post Harappa too.

5 Siberian 8.11
7 East_Asian 6.47
= 14.58

4 E_Asian 6.89
6 Siberian 6.27
8 Beringian 1.41
= 14.57%

He is Pontid + Turanid. Look somewhat similar to Chetin Sadula, you can google him.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 26.85
2 NE-Euro 24.26
3 Mediterranean 13.47
4 Baloch 10.28
5 SW-Asian 7.85
6 Siberian 7.62
7 NE-Asian 4.27
8 Beringian 2.49
9 S-Indian 1.42
10 American 0.8
11 E-African 0.36
12 Papuan 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 13.82
2 ashkenazi (harappa) 16.42
3 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 16.56
4 nogai (yunusbayev) 16.57
5 romanian-a (behar) 16.83
6 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 18.02
7 tuscan (1000genomes) 20.1
8 tuscan (hgdp) 20.43
9 tuscan (hapmap) 20.97
10 stalskoe (xing) 21.55
11 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 21.7
12 turkmen (yunusbayev) 21.84
13 romanian-b (behar) 22.47
14 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 23.12
15 sephardic-jew (behar) 23.8
16 turk (behar) 23.82
17 turkish (harappa) 24.43
18 tajik (yunusbayev) 24.79
19 kumyk (yunusbayev) 25.09
20 morocco-jew (behar) 25.09

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 29.4% chuvash (behar) @ 3.72
2 75.8% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 24.2% russian (hgdp) @ 4.6
3 74.2% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 25.8% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 4.85
4 52.4% cypriot (behar) + 47.6% chuvash (behar) @ 5.17
5 81.7% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 18.3% finnish (1000genomes) @ 5.46
6 79.3% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 20.7% lithuanian (behar) @ 5.63
7 73.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 26.5% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 5.82
8 76.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 23.5% belorussian (behar) @ 5.89
9 58.6% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 41.4% chuvash (behar) @ 6.02
10 75.9% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 24.1% russian (behar) @ 6.02
11 70.2% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 29.8% slovenian (xing) @ 6.33
12 57.7% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 42.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 6.33
13 74.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 25.4% n-european (xing) @ 6.35
14 69.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 30.5% hungarian (behar) @ 6.42
15 60.3% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 39.7% chuvash (behar) @ 6.45
16 75.3% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 24.7% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 6.48
17 57.3% romanian-a (behar) + 42.7% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 6.51
18 76.8% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 23.2% orcadian (hgdp) @ 6.54
19 51.6% lebanese-muslim (haber) + 48.4% chuvash (behar) @ 6.59
20 50.9% chuvash (behar) + 49.1% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 6.61

[Leto]

He is Pontid + Turanid. Look somewhat similar to Chetin Sadula, you can google him.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 26.85
2 NE-Euro 24.26
3 Mediterranean 13.47
4 Baloch 10.28
5 SW-Asian 7.85
6 Siberian 7.62
7 NE-Asian 4.27
8 Beringian 2.49
9 S-Indian 1.42
10 American 0.8
11 E-African 0.36
12 Papuan 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 13.82
2 ashkenazi (harappa) 16.42
3 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 16.56
4 nogai (yunusbayev) 16.57
5 romanian-a (behar) 16.83
6 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 18.02
7 tuscan (1000genomes) 20.1
8 tuscan (hgdp) 20.43
9 tuscan (hapmap) 20.97
10 stalskoe (xing) 21.55
11 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 21.7
12 turkmen (yunusbayev) 21.84
13 romanian-b (behar) 22.47
14 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 23.12
15 sephardic-jew (behar) 23.8
16 turk (behar) 23.82
17 turkish (harappa) 24.43
18 tajik (yunusbayev) 24.79
19 kumyk (yunusbayev) 25.09
20 morocco-jew (behar) 25.09

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 29.4% chuvash (behar) @ 3.72
2 75.8% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 24.2% russian (hgdp) @ 4.6
3 74.2% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 25.8% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 4.85
4 52.4% cypriot (behar) + 47.6% chuvash (behar) @ 5.17
5 81.7% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 18.3% finnish (1000genomes) @ 5.46
6 79.3% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 20.7% lithuanian (behar) @ 5.63
7 73.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 26.5% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 5.82
8 76.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 23.5% belorussian (behar) @ 5.89
9 58.6% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 41.4% chuvash (behar) @ 6.02
10 75.9% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 24.1% russian (behar) @ 6.02
11 70.2% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 29.8% slovenian (xing) @ 6.33
12 57.7% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 42.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 6.33
13 74.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 25.4% n-european (xing) @ 6.35
14 69.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 30.5% hungarian (behar) @ 6.42
15 60.3% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 39.7% chuvash (behar) @ 6.45
16 75.3% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 24.7% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 6.48
17 57.3% romanian-a (behar) + 42.7% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 6.51
18 76.8% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 23.2% orcadian (hgdp) @ 6.54
19 51.6% lebanese-muslim (haber) + 48.4% chuvash (behar) @ 6.59
20 50.9% chuvash (behar) + 49.1% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 6.61

I have. This guy looks completely Anatolian Turkish to me

[Kaspias]

I have. This guy looks completely Anatolian Turkish to me

OP is partly blonde and white skinned compared to him but Turkic look remains. Expectedly, this is how you look if you are almost 50% Turkmen no matter you are Balkan or Anatolian Turk. Both community have same origin at the end of the day.

[Thracian]

I'm not going to care FTDNA since i don't even have a hope on them We have been discussing about possible Tatar ancestry but he definitely doesn't know anything about it. There is a potential for migration from Bulgaria to Greece like in my father's case, but these migrations usually from Northern Thrace. I was able find a connection with Northern Bulgaria too though.

Do you any suggestions while investigating Tatar ancestry? It seems calculators usually prefer to give Turkmen before Tatar. Anything else?



He is Pontid + Turanid. Look somewhat similar to Chetin Sadula, you can google him.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 26.85
2 NE-Euro 24.26
3 Mediterranean 13.47
4 Baloch 10.28
5 SW-Asian 7.85
6 Siberian 7.62
7 NE-Asian 4.27
8 Beringian 2.49
9 S-Indian 1.42
10 American 0.8
11 E-African 0.36
12 Papuan 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 13.82
2 ashkenazi (harappa) 16.42
3 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 16.56
4 nogai (yunusbayev) 16.57
5 romanian-a (behar) 16.83
6 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 18.02
7 tuscan (1000genomes) 20.1
8 tuscan (hgdp) 20.43
9 tuscan (hapmap) 20.97
10 stalskoe (xing) 21.55
11 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 21.7
12 turkmen (yunusbayev) 21.84
13 romanian-b (behar) 22.47
14 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 23.12
15 sephardic-jew (behar) 23.8
16 turk (behar) 23.82
17 turkish (harappa) 24.43
18 tajik (yunusbayev) 24.79
19 kumyk (yunusbayev) 25.09
20 morocco-jew (behar) 25.09

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 29.4% chuvash (behar) @ 3.72
2 75.8% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 24.2% russian (hgdp) @ 4.6
3 74.2% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 25.8% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 4.85
4 52.4% cypriot (behar) + 47.6% chuvash (behar) @ 5.17
5 81.7% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 18.3% finnish (1000genomes) @ 5.46
6 79.3% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 20.7% lithuanian (behar) @ 5.63
7 73.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 26.5% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 5.82
8 76.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 23.5% belorussian (behar) @ 5.89
9 58.6% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 41.4% chuvash (behar) @ 6.02
10 75.9% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 24.1% russian (behar) @ 6.02
11 70.2% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 29.8% slovenian (xing) @ 6.33
12 57.7% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 42.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 6.33
13 74.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 25.4% n-european (xing) @ 6.35
14 69.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 30.5% hungarian (behar) @ 6.42
15 60.3% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 39.7% chuvash (behar) @ 6.45
16 75.3% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 24.7% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 6.48
17 57.3% romanian-a (behar) + 42.7% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 6.51
18 76.8% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 23.2% orcadian (hgdp) @ 6.54
19 51.6% lebanese-muslim (haber) + 48.4% chuvash (behar) @ 6.59
20 50.9% chuvash (behar) + 49.1% lebanese-druze (haber) @ 6.61

Maybe we should interpret it through Gedmatch admixtures and matches. G25 is cool but it is pretty difficult to interpret it with G25. I think we should discuss about it in your thread about Turkic migrations to Anatolia and Balkans, so we can compare some results there.

[Leto]

I wonder why FTDNA barely detected the East Eurasian except for the trace region. Looks the Asia Minor component might be mixed itself.