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    There were some Turks in Kosovo, in Prizren in particular I believe, and there still are a few of them living there. In a few settlements there were ethnic Circassians as well, but they returned to Russia during the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thracian View Post
    Awesome work!

    1- This is what I was saying. Most Turkmens resettled in balkans after Celali Rebellions, and to be fair, we are all mixed but some people even have really higher East Eurasian. That can not be indicates early settlements.
    2- Not only because of Celali Rebellions but also some other rebellions causes less Turkic population in Eastern Anatolia.
    The thing that people who claim that the Balkan Turks carry Anatolia is wrong is that those people came without interference in Anatolia with the Yörük self-identity. At this point, it is certain that there is a Yörük connection between Anatolia and Balkan.

    Later, among those who migrated irregularly to the Balkans (the 1700s and later), there should be those with an Anatolian contribution, but I think this mixture melted.

    On the other hand, there is a more important issue than the Anatolian mixture that we need to address when dealing with Balkan Turks; Tatars.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    The thing that people who claim that the Balkan Turks carry Anatolia is wrong is that those people came without interference in Anatolia with the Yörük self-identity. At this point, it is certain that there is a Yörük connection between Anatolia and Balkan.

    Later, among those who migrated irregularly to the Balkans (the 1700s and later), there should be those with an Anatolian contribution, but I think this mixture melted.

    On the other hand, there is a more important issue than the Anatolian mixture that we need to address when dealing with Balkan Turks; Tatars.
    But don't carry Yöruks massive Anatolian aswell?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    But don't carry Yöruks massive Anatolian aswell?
    They were not carrying in that time period. The ones who settled were mixed, nomads were heavily Turkic. The reason why they had different registers was they pay low taxes compared to the others. But also they were core manpower sources of the state in the wars.

    Today Anatolian Yörüks carry ~50% Anatolian admixture, I think same can be said for Balkans even though we don't have Yörük self-identify here anymore, except for North Macedonia.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Turks should embrace both their Turkic and Roman ancestry, being 50% anatolian or greek or balkaner means that at least you have maternal side from those people.

    Nobody here observes Turks as 600 A.D. Horseraiders.

    Remember by denying your Balkan, Anatolian blood you deny your grandmothers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    The turkic migration started more earlier with huns, bulgars, pechenegs.
    Huns and Bulgars not are Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KanasKrum View Post
    Huns and Bulgars not are Turks.
    They were turkic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    They were turkic.
    Actually Western Europeans are the one with Asians roots. You came from Asia darling on our land. Your R1a and R1b originate in Asia. Southern Europeans wear the older genes and culture here. You’re pure Asian invaders IE by us.
    The blond cant help you to hide your non european blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Givec View Post
    Actually Western Europeans are the one with Asians roots. You came from Asia darling on our land. Your R1a and R1b originate in Asia. Southern Europeans wear the older genes and culture here. You’re pure Asian invaders IE by us.
    The blond cant help you to hide your non european blood.
    Don't worry i'm european you turkic boi. These were your ancestors:







    Accept the facts chink.

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