Interesting photo from Putin-Erdogan meeting

[Sarmatian]

Its no surprise putin is the one inviting erdogan to moscow every other month to settle things because is in russia’s interest not to go to war with turkey.

Your level of analysis is perfectly displayed in this one sentence. In international politics the one who invites is the boss, he gets to stay at home and make all his bitches do the running around. Especially in times of crisis.

So if number of visits to one another is roughly the same that means positions are equal. But whoever does more visits in calm time or visiting in crisis time is the servant.

[Sarmatian]

Even if this happens (there’s a possibility) there will still be an Oghuz state somewhere in it, there are simply too many Turks for there not to be. It will probably be in the center/west part of Anatolia, with the East becoming Kurdistan and the territories across the Bosporus ceding to Greece

Too many of these 'Turks' are in fact crypto-Greeks, crypto-Armenians and many other ethnic groups assimilated under threat of genocide. As soon as state collapses they will come out with their original identities.

The entire Western part with most of Black sea coast could be taken by Greece. The transition period could take a while. Central and Eastern part could be split between Armenia at North, Iran might take some land in middle, Kurdistan and Syria splitting the rest. There are no political forces interested in existence of independent Turkish state anywhere in the region. For centuries Turks were pain in the arse of every single neighbour around them, nobody will be sorry if they disappear from political landscape.

[Drawing-slim]

Your level of analysis is perfectly displayed in this one sentence. In international politics the one who invites is the boss, he gets to stay at home and make all his bitches do the running around. Especially in times of crisis.

So if number of visits to one another is roughly the same that means positions are equal. But whoever does more visits in calm time or visiting in crisis time is the servant.

Well if they killed the russian ambasador in public execution style for the world to see why would Putin, a KGB master agent would ever take the chance to go to Turkey?? What does that say about your level of analyses, or ignorance rather.

[Westbrook]

I'm curious what you self-described political analyst geniuses think would happen if Erdogan got whacked in Russia

Well if they killed the russian ambasador in public execution style for the world to see why would Putin, a KGB master agent would ever take the chance to go to Turkey?? What does that say about your level of analyses, or ignorance rather.

[Drawing-slim]

I'm curious what you self-described political analyst geniuses think would happen if Erdogan got whacked in Russia

Nothing is going to happened to him in russia, thats why erdogan and putin decide to meet in russia for the safety of both because Putin has total control in Rusia while Erdogan almost got ousted and killed in Turkey.
The jihadists around the world will support turkey agasint russia in an all out war with any leader of turkey leading such war as long as he is as religious as erdogan or more.

[Dr_Maul]

Too many of these 'Turks' are in fact crypto-Greeks, crypto-Armenians and many other ethnic groups assimilated under threat of genocide. As soon as state collapses they will come out with their original identities.

The entire Western part with most of Black sea coast could be taken by Greece. The transition period could take a while. Central and Eastern part could be split between Armenia at North, Iran might take some land in middle, Kurdistan and Syria splitting the rest. There are no political forces interested in existence of independent Turkish state anywhere in the region. For centuries Turks were pain in the arse of every single neighbour around them, nobody will be sorry if they disappear from political landscape.

Yeah I think ur right, not sure how it would play out tho. The US would definitely support an independent state somewhere (ez puppet) and who will defend Turkey in the event of a war? Who knows. It could turn out very bad or very well for certain people.

[Westbrook]

Ohh this is an interesting tangent... You believe the "coup attempt" against Erdogan was legit?

Nothing is going to happened to him in russia, thats why erdogan and putin decide to meet in russia for the safety of both because Putin has total control in Rusia while Erdogan almost got ousted and killed in Turkey.
The jihadists around the world will support turkey agasint russia in an all out war with any leader of turkey leading such war as long as he is as religious as erdogan or more.

[The Lawspeaker]

Too many of these 'Turks' are in fact crypto-Greeks, crypto-Armenians and many other ethnic groups assimilated under threat of genocide. As soon as state collapses they will come out with their original identities.

The entire Western part with most of Black sea coast could be taken by Greece. The transition period could take a while. Central and Eastern part could be split between Armenia at North, Iran might take some land in middle, Kurdistan and Syria splitting the rest. There are no political forces interested in existence of independent Turkish state anywhere in the region. For centuries Turks were pain in the arse of every single neighbour around them, nobody will be sorry if they disappear from political landscape.

The complete annihilation of Turkey as a political entity will make Europe a much better place. Particularly since it will also cause the other small Islamic countries in Europe to collapse (without their leader leading them) and without Turkey - most migrants in Europe will be forced to understand that they have a choice between assimilation or leaving. If you want to know how my exact feelings on how Europe should go about the dissolution of Turkey: I think Sherman's March to the Sea should cover it nicely. Istanbul should burn like Atlanta and we're should give them plenty of neck ties: both around their necks and in the landscape. This as a revenge for centuries of misdeeds and the fact that they haven't learned a single thing.




So we made a thoroughfare for freedom and her train,
Sixty miles in latitude, three hundred to the main;
Treason fled before us, for resistance was in vain
While we were marching through Georgia.

[Sarmatian]

Well if they killed the russian ambasador in public execution style for the world to see why would Putin, a KGB master agent would ever take the chance to go to Turkey?? What does that say about your level of analyses, or ignorance rather.

The information is only couple clicks away. Why so stupid? Putin visiting Turkey nearly every year. It would be obvious to the point of being inappropriate to make Erdogan do all the running.

However the very fact Erdogan came to Moscow during moment of crisis and behaving like a good boy in front of such humiliating displays signifies his servile position.

In contrast Putin was meeting Trump on territory of third party. Same was between Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin back in Tehran. All these were meetings between equal parties.

[Sarmatian]

Yeah I think ur right, not sure how it would play out tho. The US would definitely support an independent state somewhere (ez puppet) and who will defend Turkey in the event of a war? Who knows. It could turn out very bad or very well for certain people.

We have to keep in mind it's only one of many possible scenarios. Too many forces involved into process for anyone to be able to caluclate it all reliably. The final outcome depends on which forces will decide to stay in the game to the end and how hard they are willing to push in desired direction. Time will show.