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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Much closer. It's like this weird mixture of Dutch, German and Limburgic. I also hear some Guelders in it. It's right at a crossroads of languages and dialects.
    The differences between Dutch and German is more grayer, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamal900 View Post
    The differences between Dutch and German is more grayer, right?

    Dialect-wise ? Yes. Official-language wise ? Both Dutch and Germans adopted standards as based on the manner of speech in completely opposite parts of the countries and even then - it still works out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    But that is standard Dutch. For instance Limburgic is much closer to German (and I can understand most of it unless they are from Kerkrade. Nobody understands Kerkrade. Not even the next village over. Be it in Germany or the Netherlands. Those guys have a legitimate speech impediment.. No... they ARE a speech impediment !

    Just to show direct the continuum is - the Uerdinger and Benrather lines should show you that Limburgic is essentially more a German dialect than a Dutch one (and Dutch is itself a version of Low German so the Benrather Line applies to us too).

    The dialect difference for the words for I (ik - Standard Dutch and its dialects and Low German, Ich - High German dialects and Standard German).



    And much of the Netherlands (except Frisia) would be yellow:



    Or using a different definition: the East of the Netherlands is Low Saxon (like much of North-Western Germany):



    Hollandic is essentially an amalgination of Frankish and Frisian dialects that became the standard with the evolvement of Dutch. Low Rhenish being, essentially, a mixture between Dutch and German - leaning both heavily towards Guelders and Limburg.

    An example of spoken Kerkradens:



    I am struggling to understand what he's saying... and failing.

    In another Limburgic dialect (I think Teutone might be able to understand this):



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    You are more northern shifted than me. I’m even more southern German than I previously thought, I found out I have Swiss Germans in my family.

    For comparison, my G25 closest populations:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gründig View Post
    You are more northern shifted than me. I’m even more southern German than I previously thought, I found out I have Swiss Germans in my family.

    For comparison, my G25 closest populations and Ph2ter’s map:



    But I am also way more eastern shifted.

    You more Western and Southern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Cool , that is from my Iron age thread right ? Using scaled modern pops my number 1 closest population is Dutch so you would think German would be high up there too , right ? Not, necessarily but Scandinavian and British isles (to be expected this latter one) :

    Vahaduo Eurogenes K15 :
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    Vahaduo Eurogenes K13:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Where is your 13.4% Philistine from? Jewish ancestry?


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    I'm getting a more southern pull than Slavic honestly.


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