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Thread: Rama+Erdogan threaten Northern Epirus Hellenism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    As having majority among all Balkan nations we had right to destroy everything in our path, but we saved our ex-religion which was later used by our enemies westerners to recreate you.
    Why dont u make a comparison Thread between Sunni islam and Orthodoxy, ottoman era etc?? It may be very interesting and of value.
    This thread is for the possibility of this plan , for centers to open in Gree-Albanian borders

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ujku View Post
    First of all what has Erdogan to do with this ? This is Europes suggestion and Rama will do it becaause he want to join the EU .
    Second what hellenism are you talking about ? Southern Albos have all left leave alone the grecophone ones . The Albanian country side is dead .
    Third we don't know exactly where these camps will be built but one of them will be close to gjirokaster not 3 . There rest will be in other parts of the country .
    Erdogan has everything to do with this. He has a direct line to Rama. Erdogan + Rama cooked up this scheme. This is not Europe's suggestion. This is a ploy to further divide Greece and take advantage of the pillaged countryside of Epirus and Northern Epirus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anaximander View Post
    Why dont u make a comparison Thread between Sunni islam and Orthodoxy, ottoman era etc?? It may be very interesting and of value.
    This thread is for the possibility of this plan , for centers to open in Gree-Albanian borders
    You must understand that Muslim Greeks of Turkey also plan to Conquer Orthodox Greece, you can't blame them, you live in their cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    As having majority among all Balkan nations we had right to destroy everything in our path, but we saved our ex-religion which was later used by our enemies westerners to recreate you.
    There is ample evidence that Greek language schools operated in many places of the Ottoman Empire, especially after mid-18th century. However, there are indications that local Ottoman authorities in the periphery were unfavorable toward schools. For example, an 1820 article referring to the formidable school of Melies (Central Greece) describes it as "favorable to a retreat of the Muses [because] It is remote from the jealous eye of the Turkish governor, and still more secured from his encroachments by certain privileges and immunities, which have been granted to the town by the government." There were restrictions; in Ottoman Epirus in 1913, for example, the authorities required that books come from Ottoman Constantinople rather than from Athens in independent Greece, so some teachers gave political instruction in secret.

    Nonetheless, it is sometimes said in Greece today that the Ottoman authorities prohibited education in the languages of non-Muslim subject peoples, obliging Greeks to organize small, secret schools in monasteries and churches. Supposed sites of such secret schools are today shown in many places in Greece, notably at the Philosophou Monastery in Dimitsana. These schools are often credited, specially by the Greek Church, with having played a decisive role in keeping Greek language and literacy alive through the period of Turkish rule.

    Angelou claims that the first mention of such schools has been traced to 1825, in a work of the German scholar Carl Iken, quoting information given to him by a Greek scholar, Stephanos Kanellos. An earlier mention of repressed education of Greeks is found in a speech of Konstantinos Oikonomou, in 1821. He says that schools in Ottoman Empire operated under the pretext of teaching religion and commerce, some of them were kept open through bribing influential Turks, and that the official school of Smyrna was persecuted because it taught mathematics and philosophy. In 1823, Greek scholar Michel Schinas, in 1823, describes the obstacles imposed to Greek schools by local Ottoman authorities. Due to these hindrances, "pupils and teachers retreated in the darkness to avoid the encounter of denunciation". Apart from the Greeks, also Albanians under Ottoman rule operated secret schools in the late 19th century, organized by Bektashi priests

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epirus DNA View Post
    Erdogan has everything to do with this. He has a direct line to Rama. Erdogan + Rama cooked up this scheme. This is not Europe's suggestion. This is a ploy to further divide Greece and take advantage of the pillaged countryside of Epirus and Northern Epirus.
    Read what i wrote again and stop making accusations out of your ass .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epirus DNA View Post
    There is ample evidence that Greek language schools operated in many places of the Ottoman Empire, especially after mid-18th century. However, there are indications that local Ottoman authorities in the periphery were unfavorable toward schools. For example, an 1820 article referring to the formidable school of Melies (Central Greece) describes it as "favorable to a retreat of the Muses [because] It is remote from the jealous eye of the Turkish governor, and still more secured from his encroachments by certain privileges and immunities, which have been granted to the town by the government." There were restrictions; in Ottoman Epirus in 1913, for example, the authorities required that books come from Ottoman Constantinople rather than from Athens in independent Greece, so some teachers gave political instruction in secret.

    Nonetheless, it is sometimes said in Greece today that the Ottoman authorities prohibited education in the languages of non-Muslim subject peoples, obliging Greeks to organize small, secret schools in monasteries and churches. Supposed sites of such secret schools are today shown in many places in Greece, notably at the Philosophou Monastery in Dimitsana. These schools are often credited, specially by the Greek Church, with having played a decisive role in keeping Greek language and literacy alive through the period of Turkish rule.

    Angelou claims that the first mention of such schools has been traced to 1825, in a work of the German scholar Carl Iken, quoting information given to him by a Greek scholar, Stephanos Kanellos. An earlier mention of repressed education of Greeks is found in a speech of Konstantinos Oikonomou, in 1821. He says that schools in Ottoman Empire operated under the pretext of teaching religion and commerce, some of them were kept open through bribing influential Turks, and that the official school of Smyrna was persecuted because it taught mathematics and philosophy. In 1823, Greek scholar Michel Schinas, in 1823, describes the obstacles imposed to Greek schools by local Ottoman authorities. Due to these hindrances, "pupils and teachers retreated in the darkness to avoid the encounter of denunciation". Apart from the Greeks, also Albanians under Ottoman rule operated secret schools in the late 19th century, organized by Bektashi priests
    Greek language was predominantly used by Ottomans, it was second language after Turkish

    Mehmed II, Ali Pasha Tepelena, Mustafa Khaznadar, Hayredin Barbarossa and thousands other officials used both Turkish and Greek.

    Greek language is language of Ottomans that eventually in Attaturk Reforms got completely replaced by Turkish language.

    If Greek language schools existed it were used for the purposes of Ottomans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    You must understand that Muslim Greeks of Turkey also plan to Conquer Orthodox Greece, you can't blame them, you live in their cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ujku View Post
    Read what i wrote again and stop making accusations out of your ass .
    Erdogan builds a Mosque a day in Albania and ships in Imams to push the Muslim Turkish Caliphate.

    Erdogan + Rama = Ottoman Love

    Southern Albania is completely Hellenized. From the food, to the music, to the clothes, to the culture. Southern Albos have not left the Greeks alone. Katsifas was not too long ago. Neither was damaging the Thymios Liolis monument in Kranë in Finiq.

    Three camps are being put on the Greek / Albanian Border. Here is the map:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Epirus DNA View Post
    Erdogan + Rama are building a Mosque a day in Albania and shipping in Imams from Turkey to further push their Caliphate propaganda.

    If this was about helping people, it would be one thing, but this is masked in something rather sinister.
    Dude you with your claims, better than trump, stop with this bullshit lol.

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