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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumansky View Post
    What is NE-Euro? Polish? Modern people are not proxy of any NE-Euro. For that utilize ancient sample proper examined without outlier admixtures, all these Gedmatch is amateur and already expire date has passed
    It peaks in Finns and Baltic people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumansky View Post
    So are Greeks
    Greeks are Southern white people with almost zero African.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumansky View Post
    So are Greeks
    True

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Greeks are Southern white people with almost zero African.
    Maybe in Gedmatch not in real life

    But am I not as dumb as you label everyone in an ethnic group same, there is difference in every ethnic group you can have Borreby or Libyid in Greece

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    He is a Sanhadja Berber

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    Why so much European?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FilhoV View Post
    Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

    K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 26.8
    2 West_Med 21.89
    3 North_Atlantic 15.3
    4 Sub-Saharan 13.35
    5 Red_Sea 13.12
    6 Northeast_African 8.68
    7 Amerindian 0.75
    8 Oceanian 0.11

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Mozabite_Berber 5.95
    2 Algerian 6.11
    3 Tunisian 7.07
    4 Moroccan 9.8
    5 Algerian_Jewish 20.48
    6 Libyan_Jewish 21.05
    7 Egyptian 21.68
    8 Tunisian_Jewish 21.89
    9 West_Sicilian 22.12
    10 Sephardic_Jewish 22.39
    11 Italian_Jewish 22.66
    12 East_Sicilian 23.08
    13 Ashkenazi 23.3
    14 South_Italian 23.77
    15 Tuscan 25.15
    16 Italian_Abruzzo 25.31
    17 Central_Greek 25.39
    18 Bedouin 26.59
    19 Greek_Thessaly 26.85
    20 Jordanian 28.01

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 92.3% Mozabite_Berber + 7.7% Southeast_English @ 4.48
    2 92.7% Mozabite_Berber + 7.3% West_Scottish @ 4.49
    3 92.5% Mozabite_Berber + 7.5% Southwest_English @ 4.53
    4 92.7% Mozabite_Berber + 7.3% Orcadian @ 4.53
    5 92.8% Mozabite_Berber + 7.2% Irish @ 4.54
    6 92.8% Mozabite_Berber + 7.2% Danish @ 4.57
    7 92.8% Mozabite_Berber + 7.2% North_Dutch @ 4.58
    8 89.3% Mozabite_Berber + 10.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.6
    9 90.1% Mozabite_Berber + 9.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.6
    10 93.2% Mozabite_Berber + 6.8% Norwegian @ 4.61
    11 90.9% Mozabite_Berber + 9.1% French @ 4.61
    12 89.8% Mozabite_Berber + 10.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.62
    13 91.7% Mozabite_Berber + 8.3% West_German @ 4.62
    14 91.9% Mozabite_Berber + 8.1% South_Dutch @ 4.64
    15 92.8% Mozabite_Berber + 7.2% North_German @ 4.66
    16 89.4% Mozabite_Berber + 10.6% Portuguese @ 4.68
    17 89.9% Mozabite_Berber + 10.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.69
    18 89.4% Mozabite_Berber + 10.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.71
    19 90.8% Mozabite_Berber + 9.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.71
    20 93.4% Mozabite_Berber + 6.6% Swedish @ 4.73
    Here is another Mauritanian, from Trarza Region, for comparison:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trarza_Region

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_Med 25.98
    2 East_Med 22.63
    3 Red_Sea 16.78
    4 Sub-Saharan 14.87
    5 Northeast_African 14.42
    6 North_Atlantic 5.32

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Mozabite_Berber 7.8
    2 Moroccan 8.59
    3 Algerian 10.1
    4 Tunisian 11.23
    5 Egyptian 23.12
    6 Libyan_Jewish 27.2
    7 Algerian_Jewish 27.44
    8 Bedouin 28.47
    9 Tunisian_Jewish 28.53
    10 Sephardic_Jewish 30.19
    11 East_Sicilian 30.29
    12 Italian_Jewish 30.47
    13 West_Sicilian 30.63
    14 Jordanian 31.01
    15 Ashkenazi 31.04
    16 South_Italian 31.24
    17 Syrian 32.3
    18 Central_Greek 32.53
    19 Palestinian 32.58
    20 Italian_Abruzzo 33.62

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 90.4% Moroccan + 9.6% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 4.09
    2 90.8% Moroccan + 9.2% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.2
    3 91% Moroccan + 9% Luhya @ 4.2
    4 89.9% Moroccan + 10.1% San @ 4.27
    5 91.6% Moroccan + 8.4% Biaka_Pygmy @ 4.31
    6 92.2% Moroccan + 7.8% Bantu_S.E. @ 4.55
    7 92.4% Moroccan + 7.6% Bantu_S.W. @ 4.62
    8 92.8% Moroccan + 7.2% Mandenka @ 4.87
    9 93.4% Moroccan + 6.6% Yoruban @ 5.03
    10 90.9% Moroccan + 9.1% Sudanese @ 5.56
    11 90.8% Mozabite_Berber + 9.2% Maasai @ 5.56
    12 89% Moroccan + 11% Sandawe @ 5.61
    13 92.4% Mozabite_Berber + 7.6% Sudanese @ 5.64
    14 92.6% Mozabite_Berber + 7.4% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 5.67
    15 90.9% Mozabite_Berber + 9.1% Sandawe @ 5.74
    16 92.4% Mozabite_Berber + 7.6% Hadza @ 5.79
    17 91.5% Moroccan + 8.5% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 5.93
    18 93.4% Mozabite_Berber + 6.6% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 5.95
    19 92.9% Mozabite_Berber + 7.1% San @ 5.96
    20 90% Moroccan + 10% Maasai @ 6.2

    =====

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    Admix Results (sorted):


    # Population Percent
    1 Mediterranean 34.95
    2 SW-Asian 29.33
    3 W-African 15.69
    4 E-African 13.41
    5 Caucasian 4.5
    6 NE-Euro 1.42
    7 NE-Asian 0.69
    8 Beringian 0.01


    Single Population Sharing:


    # Population (source) Distance
    1 moroccan (behar) 4.1
    2 algeria (henn2012) 6.91
    3 mozabite (hgdp) 8.01
    4 saharawi (henn2012) 8.57
    5 morocco-s (henn2012) 12.86
    6 morocco-n (henn2012) 13.82
    7 libya (henn2012) 15.26
    8 tunisia (henn2012) 19.98
    9 egypt (henn2012) 30.03
    10 egyptian (behar) 33.02
    11 puerto-rican (bryc) 33.63
    12 morocco-jew (behar) 34.18
    13 puerto-rican (1000genomes) 34.54
    14 yemenese (behar) 36.41
    15 sephardic-jew (behar) 38.12
    16 dominican (bryc) 39.01
    17 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 39.96
    18 ashkenazi (harappa) 41.25
    19 sardinian (hgdp) 41.44
    20 jordanian (behar) 41.54


    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 96.2% moroccan (behar) + 3.8% anuak (pagani) @ 2.44
    2 96.1% moroccan (behar) + 3.9% sudanese (pagani) @ 2.44
    3 96.5% moroccan (behar) + 3.5% gumuz (pagani) @ 2.55
    4 95.7% moroccan (behar) + 4.3% maasai (1000genomes) @ 2.78
    5 95.5% moroccan (behar) + 4.5% hadza (henn2011) @ 2.8
    6 95.7% moroccan (behar) + 4.3% bulala (henn2012) @ 2.88
    7 96.2% moroccan (behar) + 3.8% ariblacksmith (pagani) @ 2.9
    8 96.1% moroccan (behar) + 3.9% aricultivator (pagani) @ 2.94
    9 95% moroccan (behar) + 5% sandawe (henn2011) @ 2.99
    10 95.7% moroccan (behar) + 4.3% wolayta (pagani) @ 3.13
    11 95.3% moroccan (behar) + 4.7% hema (xing) @ 3.15
    12 95.9% moroccan (behar) + 4.1% esomali (pagani) @ 3.24
    13 95.9% moroccan (behar) + 4.1% somali (pagani) @ 3.24
    14 96% moroccan (behar) + 4% alur (xing) @ 3.27
    15 95.6% moroccan (behar) + 4.4% oromo (pagani) @ 3.28
    16 96.1% moroccan (behar) + 3.9% somali (harappa) @ 3.38
    17 95.6% moroccan (behar) + 4.4% afar (pagani) @ 3.39
    18 95.6% moroccan (behar) + 4.4% amhara (pagani) @ 3.43
    19 95.6% moroccan (behar) + 4.4% tygray (pagani) @ 3.45
    20 95.9% moroccan (behar) + 4.1% ethiopian (behar) @ 3.53

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Here is another Mauritanian, from Trarza Region, for comparison:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trarza_Region

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_Med 25.98
    2 East_Med 22.63
    3 Red_Sea 16.78
    4 Sub-Saharan 14.87
    5 Northeast_African 14.42
    6 North_Atlantic 5.32

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Mozabite_Berber 7.8
    2 Moroccan 8.59
    3 Algerian 10.1
    4 Tunisian 11.23
    5 Egyptian 23.12
    6 Libyan_Jewish 27.2
    7 Algerian_Jewish 27.44
    8 Bedouin 28.47
    9 Tunisian_Jewish 28.53
    10 Sephardic_Jewish 30.19
    11 East_Sicilian 30.29
    12 Italian_Jewish 30.47
    13 West_Sicilian 30.63
    14 Jordanian 31.01
    15 Ashkenazi 31.04
    16 South_Italian 31.24
    17 Syrian 32.3
    18 Central_Greek 32.53
    19 Palestinian 32.58
    20 Italian_Abruzzo 33.62

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 90.4% Moroccan + 9.6% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 4.09
    2 90.8% Moroccan + 9.2% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.2
    3 91% Moroccan + 9% Luhya @ 4.2
    4 89.9% Moroccan + 10.1% San @ 4.27
    5 91.6% Moroccan + 8.4% Biaka_Pygmy @ 4.31
    6 92.2% Moroccan + 7.8% Bantu_S.E. @ 4.55
    7 92.4% Moroccan + 7.6% Bantu_S.W. @ 4.62
    8 92.8% Moroccan + 7.2% Mandenka @ 4.87
    9 93.4% Moroccan + 6.6% Yoruban @ 5.03
    10 90.9% Moroccan + 9.1% Sudanese @ 5.56
    11 90.8% Mozabite_Berber + 9.2% Maasai @ 5.56
    12 89% Moroccan + 11% Sandawe @ 5.61
    13 92.4% Mozabite_Berber + 7.6% Sudanese @ 5.64
    14 92.6% Mozabite_Berber + 7.4% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 5.67
    15 90.9% Mozabite_Berber + 9.1% Sandawe @ 5.74
    16 92.4% Mozabite_Berber + 7.6% Hadza @ 5.79
    17 91.5% Moroccan + 8.5% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 5.93
    18 93.4% Mozabite_Berber + 6.6% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 5.95
    19 92.9% Mozabite_Berber + 7.1% San @ 5.96
    20 90% Moroccan + 10% Maasai @ 6.2

    =====

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    Admix Results (sorted):


    # Population Percent
    1 Mediterranean 34.95
    2 SW-Asian 29.33
    3 W-African 15.69
    4 E-African 13.41
    5 Caucasian 4.5
    6 NE-Euro 1.42
    7 NE-Asian 0.69
    8 Beringian 0.01


    Single Population Sharing:


    # Population (source) Distance
    1 moroccan (behar) 4.1
    2 algeria (henn2012) 6.91
    3 mozabite (hgdp) 8.01
    4 saharawi (henn2012) 8.57
    5 morocco-s (henn2012) 12.86
    6 morocco-n (henn2012) 13.82
    7 libya (henn2012) 15.26
    8 tunisia (henn2012) 19.98
    9 egypt (henn2012) 30.03
    10 egyptian (behar) 33.02
    11 puerto-rican (bryc) 33.63
    12 morocco-jew (behar) 34.18
    13 puerto-rican (1000genomes) 34.54
    14 yemenese (behar) 36.41
    15 sephardic-jew (behar) 38.12
    16 dominican (bryc) 39.01
    17 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 39.96
    18 ashkenazi (harappa) 41.25
    19 sardinian (hgdp) 41.44
    20 jordanian (behar) 41.54


    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 96.2% moroccan (behar) + 3.8% anuak (pagani) @ 2.44
    2 96.1% moroccan (behar) + 3.9% sudanese (pagani) @ 2.44
    3 96.5% moroccan (behar) + 3.5% gumuz (pagani) @ 2.55
    4 95.7% moroccan (behar) + 4.3% maasai (1000genomes) @ 2.78
    5 95.5% moroccan (behar) + 4.5% hadza (henn2011) @ 2.8
    6 95.7% moroccan (behar) + 4.3% bulala (henn2012) @ 2.88
    7 96.2% moroccan (behar) + 3.8% ariblacksmith (pagani) @ 2.9
    8 96.1% moroccan (behar) + 3.9% aricultivator (pagani) @ 2.94
    9 95% moroccan (behar) + 5% sandawe (henn2011) @ 2.99
    10 95.7% moroccan (behar) + 4.3% wolayta (pagani) @ 3.13
    11 95.3% moroccan (behar) + 4.7% hema (xing) @ 3.15
    12 95.9% moroccan (behar) + 4.1% esomali (pagani) @ 3.24
    13 95.9% moroccan (behar) + 4.1% somali (pagani) @ 3.24
    14 96% moroccan (behar) + 4% alur (xing) @ 3.27
    15 95.6% moroccan (behar) + 4.4% oromo (pagani) @ 3.28
    16 96.1% moroccan (behar) + 3.9% somali (harappa) @ 3.38
    17 95.6% moroccan (behar) + 4.4% afar (pagani) @ 3.39
    18 95.6% moroccan (behar) + 4.4% amhara (pagani) @ 3.43
    19 95.6% moroccan (behar) + 4.4% tygray (pagani) @ 3.45
    20 95.9% moroccan (behar) + 4.1% ethiopian (behar) @ 3.53
    He's about 30% black. That's not a lot considering the georgraphic location.

    4 Sub-Saharan 14.87
    5 Northeast_African 14.42

    3 W-African 15.69
    4 E-African 13.41

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    He's about 30% black. That's not a lot considering the georgraphic location.

    4 Sub-Saharan 14.87
    5 Northeast_African 14.42

    3 W-African 15.69
    4 E-African 13.41

    it's because those who are able to purchase these tests are "beidan" (which is the arabo-berber elite of the country)


    Arabs and Berbers became one in these areas of the Maghreb and became known as Beidane (Whites) or Moors. The White Moors’ enslavement of black people, over centuries, produced an Arabized and Islamised black population, sometimes called Black Moors or Black Arabs by other nearby black populations. More often, these black members of Arab-Islamic civilisation are referred to as Haratines, with the connotation of being newly freed from slavery, though large percentages of this group remain enslaved. In the northern parts of all the Maghrebi states except in Mauritania, a similar Arab-Berber alliance to exploit Black labour did not occur.
    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full...7.2019.1670645

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilcar View Post
    "beidan" (which is the arabo-berber elite of the country)
    I have been told that Mauritania has the following ethnic composition:

    - ca. 40% are Black and speak African languages
    - ca. 30% are Beidan/Beidhan (speak Arabic)
    - ca. 30% are Hertanis (also speak Arabic)

    Which group do Sanhadja Berbers fall into? Probably the 4th group?

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