R1a is the Y-DNA haplogroup of the Hungarian Árpád Dynasty

[Dunai]

The study is a couple years old, and maybe some already were familiar with it, but I created this thread for once again debunking the false misconception that R1a is Slavic haplogroup, and any other none-Slavic population that has it in significant percentages must have got it by assimilating Slavs. R1a is a haplogroup mostly spread among various steppe populations, including Slavs, but not exclusively.

"We investigated the remains of ten persons originating from the Székesfehérvár Royal Basilica and later placed into Matthias Church. Successful autosomal and Y-chromosomal STR typing was performed on the ancient samples. We also successfully performed sequence analysis on the control region of the mitochondrial DNA of three skeletons. There were three R1a and two R1b statistically predicted Y haplogroups among the male skeletons (Table 3). These are the most frequent and second most frequent haplogroups (25.6 and 18.1% respectively) in the present Hungarian population (Völgyi et al. 2009). King Béla III was inferred to belong to haplogroup R1a. The R1a Y haplogroup relates paternally to more than 10% of men in a wide geographic area from South Asia to Central Eastern Europe and South Siberia (Underhill et al. 2010). It is the most frequent haplogroup in various populations speaking Slavic, Indo-Iranian, Dravidian, Turkic and Finno-Ugric languages."

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...Szekesfehervar

[Dick]

Magyar tribes brought R1a-Z645, I2a-L621, and N1a-L392(xB197) lineages to the Carpathian Basin

https://indo-european.eu/2019/04/mag...pathian-basin/

[Ion Basescul]

https://indo-european.eu/2019/04/mag...pathian-basin/

Worth mentioning that they were negative for I-S17250, which leaves either Y4460 or Z17855 as candidates. Both are quite popular in Romania apparently.

[Dunai]

https://indo-european.eu/2019/04/mag...pathian-basin/

Good article. This fragment got my attention:

"Regarding the important question of the ethnic makeup of Ugric populations stemming from the Urals, the most interesting (and expected) data is the presence of R1a-Z645 lineages among high-ranking conquerors, in particular four R1a-Z280 subclades proper of Finno-Ugrians.

This proves that, in line with the old split and expansion of R1a-CTS1211 (formed ca. 2600 BC, TMRCA ca. 2400 BC), and its finding in Bronze Age Fennoscandian samples, only some late R1a-Z280 (xZ92) lineages (see Z280 on YFull) may show a clear identification with early acculturated Uralic speakers, with the main early acculturated Balto-Slavic R1a haplogroup remaining R1a-M458.

This finding also supports the expected shared R1a-Z280 lineages among ancient Finno-Ugric populations, as predicted from the study of modern Permic and Ugric peoples in Dudás et al. (2019)."

[Dick]

Worth mentioning that they were negative for I-S17250, which leaves either Y4460 or Z17855 as candidates. Both are quite popular in Romania apparently.

I noticed Seya's father is I-S17250 but that's basal.

Which exact branch are you?

[Ion Basescul]

I noticed Seya's father is I-S17250 but that's basal.

Which exact branch are you?

I'm positive for PH908, but negative for every currently known branch downstream. If you are asking upstream then that falls under S17250.

[Dick]

I'm positive for PH908, but negative for every currently known branch downstream. If you are asking upstream then that falls under S17250.

Yeah a little birdie just told me. I'm not familiar with it.

[Leto]

Z280 is sure Balto-Slavic, why deny that. Hungarians are a mix of Slavs, Germanics, Vlachs plus some Conqueror influence. Nothing wrong with that, a great country IMO.

[Dick]

Z280 is sure Balto-Slavic, why deny that. Hungarians are a mix of Slavs, Germanics, Vlachs plus some Conqueror influence. Nothing wrong with that, a great country IMO.

Hungary +Balkans has best looking people because it’s so mixed. Haters gonna hate

[Leto]

Hungary +Balkans has best looking people because it’s so mixed. Haters gonna hate

Well, not racially mixed. Also fewer blondes in those countries. Maybe you like it swarthy