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Thread: R1a is the Y-DNA haplogroup of the Hungarian Árpád Dynasty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    The highest concentration of Z282 in Europe is all in Slavic majority countries (plus Baltic). Obviously in the Balkans and Central Europe it's mostly Slavic. Who else could have spread it?
    Romanians, Bulgarians, Greeks, Yugoslavs, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumansky View Post
    Romanians, Bulgarians, Greeks, Yugoslavs, etc
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    it is Indo-European. Turkic, Finnic and Uralic people Have Indo-European Y Dna(R1a-Z93, R1b-M269, R1a-Z92, R1a-M417). Every nation is mixed others. We do not say that Arpad Dynasty is slavic. Arpad's Y dna is most probably R1a-Z93 branch of R1a-M417.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    The highest concentration of Z282 in Europe is all in Slavic majority countries (plus Baltic). Obviously in the Balkans and Central Europe it's mostly Slavic. Who else could have spread it?
    Cultures who have preceded the Slavs like the Corded Ware for example? When we are talking about Slavic, we mean the culture as we know it, not their forefathers who are loosely related.
    To have been spread by Slavs, you should find branches that have spread around the time of the formation of Slavs as a culture. Slavs are officially recorded for the 1st time in the 6th AD, which is 1400ybp. Assuming that ancient historians were slow, we can spare them some slack and assume that Slavs formed about 2000ybp, but managed to hide.

    Z282 has a TMRCA of 4800ybp, which is more than 3000 years older than the appearance of Slavs as a culture. Same goes for M458. What might have been spread by Slavs from under Z282 are younger branches like R-YP1337, R-YP254, R-YP417 and R-L1029. The latter is probably among the most widespread teritorry-wise and arrived with Slavs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zmey Gorynych View Post
    Z-93 is not european, it may have been in the past but today it's central and south asian.
    It's originated from Europe:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    It's originated from Europe:

    From Eastern Europea(or West Asia) go to mongolia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumansky View Post
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    I2 is slavicized and Germanized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Cultures who have preceded the Slavs like the Corded Ware for example? When we are talking about Slavic, we mean the culture as we know it, not their forefathers who are loosely related.
    To have been spread by Slavs, you should find branches that have spread around the time of the formation of Slavs as a culture. Slavs are officially recorded for the 1st time in the 6th AD, which is 1400ybp. Assuming that ancient historians were slow, we can spare them some slack and assume that Slavs formed about 2000ybp, but managed to hide.

    Z282 has a TMRCA of 4800ybp, which is more than 3000 years older than the appearance of Slavs as a culture. Same goes for M458. What might have been spread by Slavs from under Z282 are younger branches like R-YP1337, R-YP254, R-YP417 and R-L1029. The latter is probably among the most widespread teritorry-wise and arrived with Slavs.
    Okay, perhaps some of it isn't directly Slavic. I'm not a Slavic supremacist or anything, I genuinely thought it was mostly Slavic. But yeah, of course it's all ultimately IE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Z280 is sure Balto-Slavic, why deny that. Hungarians are a mix of Slavs, Germanics, Vlachs plus some Conqueror influence. Nothing wrong with that, a great country IMO.
    It's baltio-slavic marker but the conquerors were not mix of these ethnicities.

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