Y DNA of Bulgarians and Proto-Bulgarians

[Lioncourt]

How do your know we will know answer soon?

There is study currently taking place. Other Bulgarians who are more interested in genetics can give you more info probably.

[Leto]

25-30% is quite possible. My bet is Bulgars had Baltic and West Asian as main components.

25-30% while hovering around barely 1% Mongoloid on average? Chuvash people are 22-27% East Eurasian depending on the person (I made the average for Dodecad, so I know precisely).

[Lioncourt]

25-30% while hovering around barely 1% Mongoloid on average? Chuvash people are 22-27% East Eurasian depending on the person (I made the average for Dodecad, so I know precisely).

There are no hard proves that Bulgars were heavily Mongoloid, at least not these who fought the Byzantine and established Bulgaria. I have seen only 1 sample tested. Bulgars later in Volga Bulgaria on place of today's Tatarstan definitely were more Mongoloid due to mixing with local tribes.

[Leto]

There are no hard proves that Bulgars were heavily Mongoloid, at least not these who fought the Byzantine and established Bulgaria. I have seen only 1 sample tested. Bulgars later in Volga Bulgaria on place of today's Tatarstan definitely were more Mongoloid due to mixing with local tribes.

Well, I didn't say 'heavily'. But hypothetically speaking if they were ca. 20% Mongoloid, kinda like modern Volga Tatars, being 25% Old Bulgar would mean ca. 5% Mongoloid and that is almost never found in ethnic Bulgarians. I can't really imagine them being 90-100% European being originally from the Azov-Caspian Steppe. However I may not know something, that's for sure.

[Lioncourt]

Well, I didn't say 'heavily'. But hypothetically speaking if they were ca. 20% Mongoloid, kinda like modern Volga Tatars, being 25% Old Bulgar would mean ca. 5% Mongoloid and that is almost never found in ethnic Bulgarians. I can't really imagine them being 90-100% European being originally from the Azov-Caspian Steppe. However I may not know something, that's for sure.

10% Siberian + East Asian is my bet. But this is gambling without firm evidence. Still this doesn't mean modern Bulgarians should be 2.5%. Inheritence is much more complicated than simple math.