Are Georgians European?

[Ion Basescul]

See Hajimurads post above

And I disagree that race and genetics have anything to do with that. CHG is one of the major components in the Steppe component, which every European has. EHG is at its biggest in half Mongoloid populations like the Komi and Mari, yet both are considered European.

[Ion Basescul]

They don't consider themselves Europeans so this is what matters the most.

http://crrc-caucasus.blogspot.com/20...y-case-of.html

[Jana]

And I disagree that race and genetics have anything to do with that. CHG is one of the major components in the Steppe component, which every European has. EHG is at its biggest in half Mongoloid populations like the Komi and Mari, yet both are considered European.

Komi and Mari are borderline European in my opinion. (more European than not however)

[Ion Basescul]

Komi and Mari are borderline European in my opinion. (more European than not however)

I actually confused them for Khanty and Mansi. Komi and Mari are like 20% East Asian/Siberian, while those are close to 50%.

[Jana]

I actually confused them for Khanty and Mansi. Komi and Mari are like 20% East Asian/Siberian, while those are close to 50%.

Khanty and Mansi are Siberians.

[Ion Basescul]

Khanty and Mansi are Siberians.

But culturally also European, because Khanty and Mansi are the closest languages to Hungarian.

[Hajimurad]

And I disagree that race and genetics have anything to do with that. CHG is one of the major components in the Steppe component, which every European has. EHG is at its biggest in half Mongoloid populations like the Komi and Mari, yet both are considered European.

Georgian culture became European-influenced only during Russian and Soviet domination. Traditional Georgian culture is more similar to Armenian and Caucasian cultures and strongly influenced by Iranian culture. Look at the Georgian alphabet (derived from Aramaic one) and Georgian Orthodox temples with conical roofs (similar to Armenian). Look at the Georgian traditional dress and their cuisine.




Does that culture looks European to you?

[Jana]

But culturally also European, because Khanty and Mansi are the closest languages to Hungarian.

Honestly, I don't think there is anything European about their culture if you exclude linguistic similarity to Hungarian (which has west Siberian origin in fact) and some recent Russian influence.
They lived hunter gatherer lifestyle for long time, more similar to northern Amerindians. I think they used to be Shamans as well.

[Ion Basescul]

Georgian culture became European-influenced only during Russian and Soviet domination. Traditional Georgian culture is more similar to Armenian and Caucasian cultures and strongly influenced by Iranian culture. Look at the Georgian alphabet (derived from Aramaic one) and Georgian Orthodox temples with conical roofs (similar to Armenian). Look at the Georgian traditional dress and their cuisine.




Does that culture looks European to you?

There isn't such a thing as a homogeneous European culture, so yeah, those can be considered as one regional subtype. At the end of the day, what matters is that the teritorry partially falls in Europe and that most Georgians consider themselves European. That's all that's needed.

[Ion Basescul]

Hachyapuri is so popular in Ukraine that it might as well be a national dish. Not to mention that belyashes are closely related and probably draw influence from hachyapuri.