Are Georgians European?

[Hajimurad]

There isn't such a thing as a homogeneous European culture, so yeah, those can be considered as one regional subtype. At the end of the day, what matters is that the teritorry partially falls in Europe and that most Georgians consider themselves European. That's all that's needed.

Territory of Georgia even partially don't falls in Europe. Majority of Georgians consider themselves as aborigines of Caucasus, not Europeans. By your logic Ashkenazi Jews and Balkan Turks (whose traditional culture isn't European) also can be European.

[Ion Basescul]

Territory of Georgia even partially don't falls in Europe. Majority of Georgians consider themselves as aborigines of Caucasus, not Europeans. By your logic Ashkenazi Jews and Balkan Turks (whose traditional culture isn't European) also can be European.

I'm just looking at what I can see from the studies that I found. I already linked that most Georgians feel European, not to mention also that 90% of them want in the EU.
I'd appreciate some evidence that isn't anecdotal as a counter-argument.



https://crrc-caucasus.blogspot.com/2...y-case-of.html



Neither you nor I can speak in the name of Georgians, so we have to respect their choices from above.

[Kyp]

They might have more than gedmatch shows.

Balochs on gedmatch are shown to have almost no steppe, but the gedrosian component is always super high amongst them in gedmatch, to they point they seem different to everyone else. But on g25 nmonte, theyre more steppe shifted than shown on gedmatch.

Same case with georgians on gedmatch probably, since the west asian/caucasian component likely is the highest in them and gedmatch gives them an odd shift.

"Steppe" is irrelevant, since it's not 100% European.

[Kyp]

Territory of Georgia even partially don't falls in Europe. Majority of Georgians consider themselves as aborigines of Caucasus, not Europeans. By your logic Ashkenazi Jews and Balkan Turks (whose traditional culture isn't European) also can be European.

By their logic Gypsies should be prototype Europeans.

- more European admixture than Georgians
- live in Europe
- Christians
- ...

[Ülev]

for some of geopolitical goal yes

[PaleoEuropean]

Georgian culture became European-influenced only during Russian and Soviet domination. Traditional Georgian culture is more similar to Armenian and Caucasian cultures and strongly influenced by Iranian culture. Look at the Georgian alphabet (derived from Aramaic one) and Georgian Orthodox temples with conical roofs (similar to Armenian). Look at the Georgian traditional dress and their cuisine.




Does that culture looks European to you?

looks very mixed Euro-Iranian to me

[Hajimurad]

looks very mixed Euro-Iranian to me

Where you see Euro?

[Ion Basescul]

By their logic Gypsies should be prototype Europeans.

- more European admixture than Georgians
- live in Europe
- Christians
- ...

Well, they are.

[brennus dux gallorum]

genetically and linguistically no.

from any other aspect yes. I see no reason to classify Georgian civilization, society and mentality anywhere else, except for the case that caucasus can be considered a category of its own, separated from both Europe and West Asia. In that case they are not European

Georgian culture became European-influenced only during Russian and Soviet domination. Traditional Georgian culture is more similar to Armenian and Caucasian cultures and strongly influenced by Iranian culture. Look at the Georgian alphabet (derived from Aramaic one) and Georgian Orthodox temples with conical roofs (similar to Armenian). Look at the Georgian traditional dress and their cuisine.




Does that culture looks European to you?

first and third pic no. The second absolutely, meanwhile the third semi-European

but still not all represent 2020

[Jana]

Well, they are.

Gypsies are not European at all, although it's true they have very significant SE European admixture.