100% probability Scythians ancestral to Kurds & some Iranians according to big study

[Historyinterest]

Anyone who says 100% referring to ADNA should be laughed and pointed at.

Spot on. This includes many other facets of science in general. Just don't use "100%".

[PaleoEuropean]

Spot on. This includes many other facets of science in general. Just don't use "100%".

Very true, nothing in science is concrete except some fundamental things and even those have their questions

[axlredneck]

Lol! Those charts and graphs are an indication of the mt-DNA, not actual descent or ancestry!

From the study:

In this study, mtDNA data from 96 individuals associated with the Scythian culture in different geographical regions and time periods have been sequenced and analysed; additionally, genomic data from eight of these individuals was obtained and analysed (Supplementary Table 1). From the western part of the Eurasian Steppe, samples discovered in the North Caucasus dating to the initial Scythian period (eighth to sixth century BCE), classical Scythians from the Don-Volga region (third century BCE), and Early Sarmatians from Pokrovka, southwest of the Ural (fifth to second century BCE), were included. From the eastern part of the Eurasian Steppe, we analysed samples from East Kazakhstan dating to the Zevakino-Chilikta phase (ninth to seventh century BCE); from the site Arzhan 2, assigned to the Aldy Bel culture in Tuva (seventh to sixth century BCE); and from the Tagar culture of the Minusinsk Basin (fifth century BCE).

[Zoro]

Lol! Those charts and graphs are an indication of the mt-DNA, not actual descent or ancestry!

From the study:

In this study, mtDNA data from 96 individuals associated with the Scythian culture in different geographical regions and time periods have been sequenced and analysed; additionally, genomic data from eight of these individuals was obtained and analysed (Supplementary Table 1). From the western part of the Eurasian Steppe, samples

Results
Samples and sequence data. We generated genome-wide capture
data on a target set of 1,233,553 SNPs 26,27 for six individuals: two
Early Sarmatians from the southern Ural region (PR9, PR3, group
#3 in Fig. 2; fifth to second century BCE), two individuals from
Berel’ in East Kazakhstan (Be9, Be11, #6) dating to the Pazyryk
period (fourth to third century BCE), and two individuals found
in kurgan Arzhan 2 (A10, A17, #5)

DON'T TROLL THIS THREAD MAN. Do you think everyone is a stupid 1st grader here and can't read the paper for themselves and see which charts refer to mt DNA and which to autosomal. These are the same samples that have been used in many threads here and on Gedmatch.

[axlredneck]

DON'T TROLL THIS THREAD MAN. Do you think everyone is a stupid 1st grader here and can't read the paper for themselves and see which charts refer to mt DNA and which to autosomal. These are the same samples that have been used in many threads here and on Gedmatch.

You're the one trolling. True that eight genomes were processed for autosomal, but can these eight tell about all eastern and western Scythians?
What about those 96 genomes whose mt-DNA was tested and compared with contemporary populations?

[Cumansky]

I'm from Ukraine

Target: Cumansky
Distance: 3.7661% / 0.03766134
29.2 NOR_N_HG
26.4 Saka_Tian_Shan
24.6 MKD_N
12.2 Kurdish
4.6 Gambian
2.0 Fulani
1.0 BedouinB

[axlredneck]

These are the population codes

And, from the supplementary information, reference for Persians and Kurds (#78) gives me this: Quintana-Murci, L. et al. Where west meets east: the complex mtDNA landscape of the southwest and Central Asian corridor. American Journal of Human Genetics 74, 827-845 (2004).

[Zoro]

You're the one trolling. True that eight genomes were processed for autosomal, but can these eight tell about all eastern and western Scythians?
What about those 96 genomes whose mt-DNA was tested and compared with contemporary populations?

Show me one chart where they compared the Scythian mt-DNA to those of the 100s of modern samples they used . Better yet, show me one table where they even list what the Mt-DNA is for the 100s of the modern samples in the study. Use common sense.

Show me where in the description of the charts I posted there's even a hint about Mt-DNA.

Model posteriors for descent from Scythian populations for 86 contemporary human populations in
Central Asia. Given for each contemporary sample are pie-charts representing the model posteriors for descent from western
Scythians (black), descent from eastern Scythians (grey) ancestral relatedness to western Scythians (red) or eastern Scythian groups
(green). Also given are the approximate locations of the ancient DNA samples and the historical range of Iron Age Scythian tribes
(orange area). See Supplementary Table 19 for detailed information on contemporary populations. Source: underlying map was created
by Tom Patterson, and downloaded from http://www.shadedrelief.com.

I already posted Table 19 for the contemporary populations. Nothing about their Mt-DNA. Zip. I know you're trolling

[Zoro]

And, from the supplementary information, reference for Persians and Kurds (#78) gives me this: Quintana-Murci, L. et al. Where west meets east: the complex mtDNA landscape of the southwest and Central Asian corridor. American Journal of Human Genetics 74, 827-845 (2004).

What's your point. They're not allowed to post any references that talk about Mt-DNA

[axlredneck]

Show me one chart where they compared the Scythian mt-DNA to those of the 100s of modern samples they used . Better yet, show me one table where they even list what the Mt-DNA is for the 100s of the modern samples in the study. Use common sense.

Show me where in the description of the charts I posted there's even a hint about Mt-DNA.



I already posted Table 19 for the contemporary populations. Nothing about their Mt-DNA. Zip. I know you're trolling

If you're stubborn and dont wanna accept the truth, well, don't! I gave you the reference from the same Table 19, and from the same Supplementary Information, and no where else.