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    The top Communist leaders have never been as hostile to their counterparts in the West, as the rhetoric suggests. They are quite friendly to the world's leading financiers and have worked closely with them, when it suits their purposes. As we shall see in the following section, the Bolshevik revolution actually was financed by wealthy financiers in London and New York. Lenin and Trotsky were on the closest of terms with these moneyed interests both before and after the Revolution. Those hidden liaisons have continued to this day and occasionally pop to the surface, when we discover a David Rockefeller holding confidential meetings with a Mikhail Gorbachev in the absence of government sponsorship or diplomatic purpose.
    Pages 263-267:
    Chapter 13 - MASQUERADE IN MOSCOW


    One of the greatest myths of contemporary history is that the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia was a popular uprising of the downtrodden masses against the hated ruling class of the Tsars. As we shall see, however, the planning, the leadership and especially the financing came entirely from outside Russia, mostly from financiers in Germany, Britain and the United States. Furthermore we shall see, that the Rothschild Formula played a major role in shaping these events.
    This amazing story begins with the war between Russia and Japan in 1904. Jacob Schiff, who was head of the New York investment firm Kuhn, Loeb and Company, had raised the capital for large war loans to Japan. It was due to this funding that the Japanese were able to launch a stunning attack against the Russians at Port Arthur and the following year to virtually decimate the Russian fleet. In 1905 the Mikado awarded Jacob Schiff a medal, the Second Order of the Treasure of Japan, in recognition of his important role in that campaign.
    Jacob Schiff was head of the New York
    investment firm Kuhn, Loeb and Co. He
    was one of the principal backers of the
    Bolshevik revolution and personally
    financed Trotsky's trip from New York
    to Russia.
    He was a major contributor
    to Woodrow Wilson's presidential
    campaign and an advocate for passage
    of the Federal Reserve Act. (p. 210)
    During the two years of hostilities thousands of Russian soldiers and sailors were taken as prisoners. Sources outside of Russia, which were hostile to the Tsarist regime, paid for the printing of Marxist propaganda and had it delivered to the prison camps. Russian-speaking revolutionaries were trained in New York and sent to distribute the pamphlets among the prisoners and to indoctrinate them into rebellion against their own government. When the war was ended, these officers and enlisted men returned home to become virtual seeds of treason against the Tsar. They were to play a major role a few years later in creating mutiny among the military during the Communist takeover of Russia.


    TROTSKY WAS A MULTIPLE AGENT
    One of the best known Russian revolutionaries at that time was Leon Trotsky. In January of 1916 Trotsky was expelled from France and came to the United States. It has been claimed that his expenses were paid by Jacob Schiff. There is no documentation to substantiate that claim, but the circumstantial evidence does point to a wealthy donor in New York. He remained for several months, while writing for a Russian socialist paper, the Novy Mir (New World) and giving revolutionary speeches at mass meetings in New York City. According to Trotsky himself, on many occasions a chauffeured limousine was placed at his service by a wealthy friend, identified as Dr. M. In his book, My Life, Trotsky wrote:

    The doctor's wife took my wife and the boys out driving and was very kind to them. But she was a mere mortal, whereas the chauffeur was a magician, a titan, a superman! With the wave of his hand he made the machine obey his slightest command. To sit beside him was the supreme delight. When they went into a tea room, the boys would anxiously demand of their mother, "Why doesn't the chauffeur come in?" (Leon Trotsky: My Life, New York publisher: Scribner's, 1930, p. 277)

    It must have been a curious sight to see the family of the great socialist radical, defender of the working class, enemy of capitalism, enjoying the pleasures of tea rooms and chauffeurs, the very symbols of capitalist luxury. On March 23, 1917 a mass meeting was held at Carnegie Hall to celebrate the abdication of Nicolas II, which meant the overthrow of Tsarist rule in Russia. Thousands of socialists, Marxists, nihilists nand anarchists attended to cheer the event. The following day there was published on page two of the New York Times a telegram from Jacob Schiff, which had been read to this audience. He expressed regrets, that he could not attend and then described the successful Russian revolution as "...what we had hoped and striven for these long years". (Mayor Calls Pacifists Traitors, The New York Times, March 24, 1917, p. 2)

    In the February 3, 1949 issue of the New York Journal American Schiff's grandson, John, was quoted by columnist Cholly Knickerbocker as saying that his grandfather had given about $20 million for the triumph of Communism in Russia. (To appraise Schiff's motives for supporting the Bolsheviks, we must remember, that he was a Jew and that Russian Jews had been persecuted under the Tsarist regime. Consequently the Jewish community in America was inclined to support any movement, which sought to topple the Russian government and the Bolsheviks were excellent candidates for the task. As we shall see further along, however, there were also strong financial incentives for Wall Street firms, such as Kuhn, Loeb and Company, of which Schiff was a senior partner, to see the old regime fall into the hands of revolutionaries, who would agree to grant lucrative business concessions in the future in return for financial support today.)

    When Trotsky returned to Petrograd in May of 1917 to organize the Bolshevik phase of the Russian Revolution, he carried $10,000 for travel expenses, a generously ample fund considering bthe value of the dollar at that time. Trotsky was arrested by Canadian and British naval personnel, when the ship, on which he was traveling, the S.S. Kristianiafjord, put in at Halifax. The money in his possession is now a matter of official record. The source of that money has been the focus of much speculation, but the evidence strongly suggests, that its origin was the German government. It was a sound investment.

    Trotsky was not arrested on a whim. He was recognized as a threat to the best interests of England, Canada's mother country in the British Commonwealth. Russia was an ally of England in the First World War, which then was raging in Europe. Anything, that would weaken Russia - and that certainly included internal revolution - would be, in effect, to strengthen Germany and weaken England. In New York on the night before his departure Trotsky had given a speech, in which he said: "I am going back to Russia to overthrow the provisional government and stop the war with Germany." (A full report on this meeting had been submitted to the U.S. Military Intelligence. See Senate Document No. 62, 66th Congress, Report and Hearings of the Subcommittee on the Judiciary, United States Senate, 1919, Vol. II, p. 2680.) Trotsky therefore represented a real threat to England's war effort. He was arrested as a German agent and taken as a prisoner of war.

    With this in mind we can appreciate the great strength of those mysterious forces both in England and the United States, that intervened on Trotsky's behalf. Immediately telegrams began to come into Halifax from such divergent sources, as an obscure attorney in New York City, from the Canadian Deputy Postmaster-General and even from a high-ranking British military officer, all inquiring into Trotsky's situation and urging his immediate release. The head of the British Secret Service in America at the time was Sir William Wiseman, who, as fate would have it, occupied the apartment directly above the apartment of Edward Mandell House and who had become fast friends with him. House advised Wiseman, that President Wilson wished to have Trotsky released. Wiseman advised his government and the British Admiralty issued orders on April 21st, that Trotsky was to be sent on his way. ("Why Did We Let Trotsky Go? How Canada Lost an Opportunity to Shorten the War", MacLeans magazine, Canada, June 1919. Also see Martin, pp. 163-164.) It was a fateful deecision, that would affect not only the outcome of the war, but the future of the entire world. It would be a mistake to conclude, that Jacob Schiff and Germany were the only players in this drama. Trotsky could not have gone even as far as Halifax without having been granted an American passport and this was accomplished by the personal intervention of President Wilson. Professor Antony Sutton says:

    President Woodrow Wilson was the fairy godmother, who provided Trotsky with a passport to return to Russia to "carry forward" the revolution... At the same time careful State Department bureaucrats, concerned about such revolutionaries entering Russia, were unilaterally attempting to tighten up passport procedures. (Antony C. Sutton, Ph. D.: Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, published by Arlington House in New Rochelle, NY, 1974, p. 25)

    And there were others, as well. In 1911 the St. Louis Dispatch published a cartoon by a Bolshevik named Robert Minor. Minor was later to be arrested in Tsarist Russia for revolutionary activities and in fact was himself bankrolled by famous Wall Street financiers. Since we may safely assume, that he knew his topic well, his cartoon is of great historical importance. It portrays Karl Marx with a book entitled Socialism under his arm, standing amid a cheering crowd on Wall Street. Gathered around and greeting him with enthusiastic handshakes are characters in silk hats identified as John D. Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, John D. Ryan of National City Bank, Morgan partner George W. Perkins and Teddy Roosevelt, leader of the Progressive Party.




    This cartoon by Robert Minor appeared in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch in 1911. It shows Karl
    Marx surrounded by enthusiastic Wall Street financiers: Morgan partner George Perkins,
    J.P. Morgan, John Ryan of National City Bank, John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie.
    Immediately behind Marx is Teddy Roosevelt, leader of the Progressive Party.
    (p. 211)


    What emerges from this sampling of events is a clear pattern of strong support for Bolshevism coming from the highest financial and political power centers in the United States; from men, who supposedly were "capitalists" and who according to conventional wisdom should have been the mortal enemies of socialism and communism. Nor was this phenomenon confined to the United States. Trotsky in his book My Life tells of a British financier, who in 1907 gave him a "large loan" to be repaid after the overthrow of the Tsar. Arsene de Goulevitch, who witnessed the Bolshevik Revolution firsthand, has identified both the name of the financier and the amount of the loan.

    "In private interviews", he said, "I have been told that over 21 million rubles were spent by Lord [Alfred] Milner in financing the Russian Revolution... The financier just mentioned was by no means alone among the British to support the Russian revolution with large financial donations." Another name specifically mentioned by de Goulevitch was that of Sir George Buchanan, the British Ambassador to Russia at the time.
    (See Arsene de Goulevitch: Czarism and Revolution, published by Omni Publications in Hawthorne, California, no date; rpt. from 1962 French edition, pp. 224, 230)


    It was one thing for Americans to undermine Tsarist Russia and thus indirectly help Germany in the war, because American were not then into it, but for British citizens to do so was tantamount to treason. To understand, what higher loyalty compelled these men to betray their battlefield ally and to sacrifice the blood of their own countrymen, we must take a look at the unique organization, to which they belonged.


    Pages 274-277:
    ROUND TABLE AGENTS IN RUSSIA

    In Russia prior to and during the revolution there were many local observers, tourists and newsmen, who reported, that British and American agents were everywhere, particularly in Petrograd, providing money for insurrection. On report said, for example, that British agents were seen handing out 25-rouble notes to the men at the Pavlovski regiment just a few hours, before it mutinied against its officers and sided with the revolution. The subsequent publication of various memoirs and documents made it clear, that this funding was provided by Milner and channeled through Sir George Buchanan, who was the British Ambassador to Russia at the time. (See de Goulevitch, p. 230) It was a repeat of the ploy, that had worked so well for the cabal many times in the past. Round Table members were once again working both sides of the conflict to weaken and topple a target government. Tsar Nicholas had every reason to believe, that since the British were Russia's allies in the war against Germany, British officials would be the last persons on Earth to conspire against him. Yet the British Ambassador himself represented the hidden group, which was financing the regime's downfall.

    The Round Table Agents from America did not have the advantage of using the diplomatic service as cover and therefore had to be considerably more ingenious. They came not as diplomats or even as interested businessmen, but disguised as Red Cross officials on a humanitarian mission. The group consisted almost entirely of financiers, lawyers and accountants from New York banks and investment houses. They simply had overpowered the American Red Cross organization with large contributions and in effect purchased a franchise to operate in its name. Professor Sutton tells us:

    The 1910 [Red Cross] fund-raising campaign for $2 million, for example, was successful only, because it was supported by these wealthy residents of New York City. J.P. Morgan himself contributed $100,000... Henry P. Davison [a Morgan partner] was chairman of the 1910 New York Fund-Raising Committee and later became chairman of the War Council of the American Red Cross... The Red Cross was unable to cope with the demands of World War I. and in effect was taken over by these New York bankers. (Sutton: Revolution, p. 72)

    For the duration of the war the Red Cross had been made nominally a part of the armed forces and subject to orders from the proper military authorities. It was not clear, who these authorities were and in fact there were never any orders, but the arrangement made it possible for the participants to receive military commissions and wear the uniform of American army officers. The entire expense of the Red Cross Mission in Russia, including the purchase of uniforms, was paid for by the man, who was appointed by President Wilson to become its head, "Colonel" William Boyce Thompson.

    Thompson was a classical specimen of the Round Table network. Having begun his career as a speculator in copper mines, he soon moved into the world of high finance. He

    • refinanced the American Woolen Company and the Tobacco Products Company;
    • launched the Cuban Cane Sugar Company;
    • purchased controlling interest in the Pierce Arrow Motor Car Company;
    • organized the Submarine Boat Corporation and the Wright-Martin Aeroplane Company;
    • became a director of the Chicago Rock Island & Pacific Railway, the Magma Arizona Railroad and the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company;
    • was one of the heaviest stockholders in the Chase National Bank;
    • was the agent for J.P. Morgan's British securities operation;
    • became the first full-time director of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, the most important bank in the Federal Reserve System;
    • and of course contributed a quarter-million dollars to the Red Cross.




    When Thompson arrived in Russia, he made it clear, that he was not your typical Red Cross representative. According to Hermann Hagedorn, Thompson's biographer:

    He deliberately created the kind of setting, which would be expected of an American magnate: established himself in a suite in the Hotel de l'Europe, bought a French limousine, went dutifully to receptions and teas and evinced an interest in objects of art. Society and the diplomats, noting that here was a man of parts and power, began to flock about him. He was entertained at the embassies, at the houses of Kerensky's ministers. It was discovered, that he was a collector and those with antiques to sell fluttered around him offering him miniatures, Dresden china, tapestries, even a palace or two. (Hermann Hagedorn: The Magnate: William Boyce Thompson and His Time, published by Reynal & Hitchcock, New York, 1935, pp. 192-93)

    When Thompson attended the opera, he was given the imperial box. People on the street called him the American Tsar. And it is not surprising, that according to George Kennan, "He was viewed by the Kerensky authorities as the 'real' ambassador of the United States." (George F. Kennan: Russia Leaves the War: Soviet-American Relations, 1917-1920 published by Princeton University Press in Princeton, NJ, 1956, p. 60)

    It is now a matter of record, that Thompson syndicated the purchase on Wall Street of Russian bonds in the amount of ten million roubles. (Hagedorn, p. 192) In addition, he gave over two million roubles to Aleksandr Kerensky for propaganda purposes inside Russia and with J.P. Morgan gave the rouble equivalent of one million dollars to the Bolsheviks for the spreading of revolutionary propaganda outside of Russia, particularly in Germany and Austria. (Sutton: Revolution, pp. 83, 91.) It was the agitation made possible by this funding, that led to the abortive German Spartacus Revolt of 1918. (See article "W.B. Thompson, Red Cross Donor, Believes Party Misrepresented" in the Washington Post of Feb. 2, 1918) A photograph of the cablegram from Morgan to Thompson advising, that the money had been transferred to the National City Bank branch in Petrograd, is included in this book.


    AN OBJECT LESSON IN SOUTH AFRICA
    At first it may seem incongruous, that the Morgan group would provide funding for both Kerensky and Lenin. These men may have both been socialist revolutionaries, but they were miles apart in their plans for the future and in fact were bitter competitors for control of the new government. But the tactic of funding both sides in a political contest by then had been refined by members of the Round Table into a fine art. A stunning example of this occurred in South Africa during the outset of the Boer War in 1899.



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    Good summary overall except one thing - Trotsky wasn't part of Bolsheviks all the way until he returned to Russia from US.

    The context of the period is very complex. Social Democratic party was split into at least six factions. Bolsheviks were only one of them, rather small and least promising. Lenin was leading this faction. Since they were one of most radical in terms of proposed social changes they were heavily prosecuted by Tsarist government hence the reason in February 1917 only three Bolsheviks were known to be in the country. Everyone else, including Lenin, were in exile abroad. So far there are no reliable evidence this faction was recieving any financial assistance from foreign agents. All Bolsheviks had to work to support themselves and only Lenin alone was allowed to live off party's membership fees since he had to do much of theoretical and organizational work. I guess they were so radical it was too much even for Western bankers.

    Trotsky was member of Social Revolutionary faction. This faction was the most extreme in its methods, they were responcible for some 95% of all political murders and terrorist attacks in Tsarist Russia. Various members of this faction and few others are known to recieve financial support from rich foreigners.

    All these factions had tried to take power between February and October 1917. The popular uprising wasn't a myth, it was happening all over the country. But it was spontaneous and chaotic. It was only matter of time one of the factions will take lead, they just needed to win popular contest. That's why I think Lenin was genius - with least resources available he managed to outplay big figures backed by big foreign powers. As result when popular tide started to shift in Lenin's favor a number of opportuninsts from other factions decided to join Bolsheviks. Lenin accepted some since he had severe shortage of capable charismatic leaders. He needed them desperately to build new functional governing system.

    One of such opportunists was Trotsky. He brought his own leadership talent and also allowed Bolsheviks to give a degree of loyalty reassurances to certain foreign players. By accepting Trotsky Lenin had won roughly 10 years of calm attitude from globalist bankers. As soon as Trotsky had lost power struggle in USSR and was kicked out by Stalin, political tide in Weimar Republic had immediatelly shifted in favor of Hitler. Fascinating coincidence, isn't it?

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    A language joke that barely works in English: "It may be pure coincedence that I don't believe in coincedence". America was funding the Nazi's as well.



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    Conspiracy theory bunk. Why did the Entente Allies funded and aided the "Whites" against the "Reds" in the Russian Civil War? Why is it hard to believe that large masses of Russians were swept up by revolutionary fervour? After all, even before the revolution the Russian military was demoralized, sodiers were deserting en masse and there were food shortages and dire poverty among civilians. Russia had a longer history of far left revolutionary activity. It's your beloved Germans who financed Lenin and send him to Russia to take it out of the war. All this other stuff is made up crap by conspiracy theorists with wild imaginations.

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    Good find

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    Interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheForeigner View Post
    Conspiracy theory bunk. Why did the Entente Allies funded and aided the "Whites" against the "Reds" in the Russian Civil War? Why is it hard to believe that large masses of Russians were swept up by revolutionary fervour? After all, even before the revolution the Russian military was demoralized, sodiers were deserting en masse and there were food shortages and dire poverty among civilians. Russia had a longer history of far left revolutionary activity. It's your beloved Germans who financed Lenin and send him to Russia to take it out of the war. All this other stuff is made up crap by conspiracy theorists with wild imaginations.
    So Germans financing Lenin isn't a conspiracy theory but someone else financing Trotsky is. Fascinating logic. But there is one question remains unanswered: why this information has never been published by Germans themselves? If Germans indeed financed Lenin they sure must've kept records of it. Imagine the demoralizing ideological blow Dr.Goebbles could've delivered to USSR during WWII by exposing the holy figure of entire country as German spy. No need for tanks and planes, tell these people their entire system was concieved by agent of foreign intelligence and people will completely lose any will to fight back.

    Entente funded and aided everyone who promised to keep Russia in war against Germany. Both Britain and France were on the edge of economic collapse due to war being so expensive. They desperately needed a strong ally presence to keep at least some German divisions occupied. Allies also had long term interests - all that aid wasn't out of benevolence, those were loans that meant to be repaid by territories or exclusive rights on Russian resources.

    The revolutionary frevor was indeed the case. That's what popular uprising was all about. The problem is popular uprisings were happening many years before revolution yet never concluded in any significant changes. Competent leadership is essential to turn mere massive riot into social structural change.

    "All this other stuff" keeps coming up in documents here and there. Over time it's forming an interesting mosaic of events.

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    Keeping the current situation in the field of education and propaganda, another 50 years will pass, and Lenin and Stalin will be presented to the children at school as demons from hell, hiding their hooves with high boots, who contained the "trophy" population in the pits, and the Red Army was summoned either straight from Hell or from the back side of the Moon to attack to a "civilized" Europe, where "everything was arranged according to the nature of man" and "as God decided."
    This is the usual bourgeois anti-Soviet propaganda that flows from all the media, escalated in the late 80s and goes on increasing, as more and more efforts are required to preserve the capitalist model in the world, due to its anti-natural (what an irony) essence. Plus religious obscurantism, destroying the ability to critical thinking in people.
    Access to real documents and facts of those times will be as difficult as possible, if at all possible, and there will also be no more people who could tell something about those times, for natural reasons. This is how history rewriting works.
    But something tells me that not everyone “on the top” interested in this state of affairs.

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    so basically the Soviets are ally of the US? - always knew it, always!

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    https://archive.radioalbion.com/TON/TON%20032520.mp3

    Podcast about the intentional negligence of the western Entente in "helping" Admiral Kolchak and Gen. Pyotr Wrangel. The White Army was disorganized, constantly low on supplies and spread throughout Russia.

    https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/...volution-5.pdf

    Book made by Anthony Sutton where he went down to the very archives that these events were recorded and shows definitive evidence that the west supported the Communists in the Russian Civil war.

    a particularly disturbing revelation is here:

    President Woodrow Wilson was the fairy godmother (lol) who provided Trotsky with a passport to
    return to Russia to "carry forward" the revolution. This American passport was accompanied
    by a Russian entry permit and a British transit visa. Jennings C. Wise, in Woodrow Wilson:
    Disciple of Revolution, makes the pertinent comment, "Historians must never forget that
    Woodrow Wilson, despite the efforts of the British police, made it possible for Leon Trotsky to
    enter Russia with an American passport."

    President Wilson facilitated Trotsky's passage to Russia at the same time careful State
    Department bureaucrats, concerned about such revolutionaries entering Russia, were
    unilaterally attempting to tighten up passport procedures. The Stockholm legation cabled the
    State Department on June 13, 1917, just after Trotsky crossed the Finnish-Russian border,
    "Legation confidentially informed Russian, English and French passport offices at Russian
    frontier, Tornea, considerably worried by passage of suspicious persons bearing American
    passports."
    On May 24, 1916, Ambassador Francis cabled a message from Rolph Marsh of Guaranty Trust
    in Petrograd to Guaranty Trust in New York, again in the special Green Cipher and again using
    the facilities of the State Department. This cable reads as follows:


    565, May 24, 6 p.m.
    for Guaranty Trust Company New York:
    Three.
    Olof and self consider the new proposition takes care Olof and will help rather
    than harm your prestige. Situation such co-operation necessary if big things
    are to be accomplished here. Strongly urge your arranging with City to
    consider and act jointly in all big propositions here. Decided advantages for
    both and prevents playing one against other. City representatives here desire
    (hand written) such co-operation. Proposition being considered eliminates our
    credit in name also option but we both consider the rouble credit with the bond
    option in propositions. Second paragraph offers wonderful profitable
    opportunity, strongly urge your acceptance. Please cable me full authority to
    act in connection with City. Consider our entertaining proposition satisfactory
    situation for us and permits doing big things. Again strongly urge your taking
    twenty-five million of rouble credit. No possibility loss and decided
    speculative advantages. Again urge having Vice President upon the ground.
    Effect here will be decidedly good. Resident Attorney does not carry same
    prestige and weight. This goes through Embassy by code answer same way.
    See cable on possibilities.

    ROLPH MARSH.
    FRANCIS,
    AMERICAN AMBASSADOR

    "Olof" in the cable was Olof Aschberg, Swedish banker and head of the Nya Banken in
    Stockholm. Aschberg had been in New York in 1915 conferring with the Morgan firm on these
    Russian loans. Now, in 1916, he was in Petrograd with Rolph Marsh of Guaranty Trust and
    Samuel MacRoberts and Rich of National City Bank ("City" in cable) arranging loans for a
    Morgan-Rockefeller consortium. The following year, Aschberg, as we shall see later, would be
    known as the "Bolshevik Banker," and his own memoirs reproduce evidence of his right to the
    title.

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