Do Greeks from Epirus have Albanian blood?

[Dušan]

Albanians didn't contributed anything, Albanians called by Greeks as Turko-Albanians because they were Moslems and were in the side of Turks fighting against the Greeks.

They also assisted nazi and fascist invasion and ocupation of both Greece and Serbia.

Here what I found about their attrocities against Greek civilians.


Overall, the Muslim Chams were sympathetic to Axis forces during the war and benefited from the Axis occupation of Greece.[29][30][31] These armed Cham collaborators displayed extreme cruelty toward the Greek population and indulged in massacres and lootings.[34] Armed Cham collaboration units actively participated in Nazi operations that resulted in the murder of more than 1,200 Greek villagers between July and September 1943,[35][36] and, in January 1944, in the murder of 600 people on the Albanian side of the border.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expuls...20the%20border.

[Dukaginzade]

The Albanian propaganda goes on... Arvanitika is and idiom not a language and is mixed Greek with Albanian words. Where are the genetics proving they are Albanians?

Literally Google arvanite dna. Average Greek is already close af to Albanians because average Greek has at least 1 Albanian grandpa, but Arvanites are just Tosks and plot with them as well. It's easy to find this out.

[Varda]

They also assisted nazi and fascist invasion and ocupation of both Greece and Serbia.

Here what I found about their attrocities against Greek civilians.


Overall, the Muslim Chams were sympathetic to Axis forces during the war and benefited from the Axis occupation of Greece.[29][30][31] These armed Cham collaborators displayed extreme cruelty toward the Greek population and indulged in massacres and lootings.[34] Armed Cham collaboration units actively participated in Nazi operations that resulted in the murder of more than 1,200 Greek villagers between July and September 1943,[35][36] and, in January 1944, in the murder of 600 people on the Albanian side of the border.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expuls...20the%20border.

Interesting and ironically, Albanians arrived to Epirus from modern central Albania with Serbian tsar Dušan in 1340s as his auxiliary troops during the his conquest of Epirus. In 14 century Albanians were mostly Orthodox, in that century started conversion of Ghegs to Roman Catholicism.

[Hellenas]

Do Greeks from Epirus have Albanian blood?

I wonder

Back to the original question, the answer is yes Greeks from Epirus have some Albanian blood as they are neighbors with Albanians and there is some influence but Albanians from southern Albania have more Greek Epirotic influence as they have assimilated more Greek population than Greeks have Albanians. North Epirus once was Greek and now occupied by Albanians.

[Hellenas]

Literally Google arvanite dna. Average Greek is already close af to Albanians because average Greek has at least 1 Albanian grandpa, but Arvanites are just Tosks and plot with them as well. It's easy to find this out.

I found nothing like that, so you probably lying. Greeks do not have Albanian grandfathers, you are a liar. Arvanites anthropologically are what other Greeks are.

[Dušan]

Interesting and ironically, Albanians arrived to Epirus from modern central Albania with Serbian tsar Dušan in 1340s as his auxiliary troops during the his conquest of Epirus. In 14 century Albanians were mostly Orthodox, in that century started conversion of Ghegs go Roman Catholicism.

Greeks were not stupid as we are, and managed to send them back to Albania.

[Varda]

Greeks were not stupid as we are, and managed to send them back to Albania.

Only minority who was ethnically cleansed from Yugoslavia after WW2 when Tito and his comminists took power were Germans which lived in Vojvodina and in smaller number in Slavonia and Slovenia.

Titoism rewarded Albanians of Yugoslavia for their colaboration with nazi Germany and fascist Italy. Titoism gave Kosovo to Albanians to rule there (they had state in the state) and sponsored their birth rate. For 43 years in communist Yugoslavia number of Albanians in Serbia increased over 3 times, from 500.000 in 1948. to 1.600.000 in 1991.

[Hellenas]

Let's see what an Arvanite says about Arvanite identity.


Thanasis Mermigas

What is it like to be an Arvanite in Greece?

Let’s talk about today’s reality.

First of all , one has to realize that there are no pure Arvanites in Greece. They are all the offspring of generations worth of interbreeding between Arvanites and other Greeks. So when the term Arvanite is used, you must realize that you are talking about individuals who most likely have more Greek genes than Arvanite , and these individuals do not deny their Greek genetic ancestors in favor of the Arvanites nor do they feel suppressed.

Secondly , Arvanites have always participated in Greek government so saying that Arvanites have been suppressed by Greek governments is like saying that Arvanites have suppressed themselves.

Some people try to create the illusion that there are pure Arvanites in Greece with an Albanian ethnic conscience who fear repercussions if they express pro Albanian sentiment. This is far from the truth.

If the Greek language and the Greek culture were so superior that they were chosen by the Romans , why can’t it be implied that the Arvanites willingly chose a Greek identity in favor of an Arvanite identity because they considered this superior ?

instead of trying to portray Arvanites as suppressed Albanians, you should focus on the offspring of genuine Albanian immigrants who came to Greece in the 90’s. They too are chosing Greek. Perhaps they are too busy enjoying a much more prosperous life than the one they would be living in Albania , and are choosing to be a part of Greek society as opposed to being seeds for Albanian expansionist dreams.

Some ultra nationalists think that their migrating nationals are an invading army. They fail to realize that most people will feel gratitude and allegiance when they have jobs, go to schools and receive welfare when they are unemployed, as opposed to staying in their country and not having food on the table.

Arvanites are proud Greeks. I too have partial Arvanite ancestry so I am qualified to answer the question. Not only are we not suppressed, but we resent Albanian nationalists that try to portray us as Albanians Who have been brainwashed. It’s people like these that make us breathe a sigh of relief that we are Greeks.

No offense to the educated hard working, honest Albanians that want peace and prosperity. Fortunately these great people outnumber the ultra nationalists who believe that anyone not opting for an Albanian identity must be the victim of suppression. Maybe it is more beneficial and glorious to be a Greek and no manipulation is required …. Just saying.

Being an Arvanite in Greece is just like being an ordinary full fledged Greek. No difference.

[Mingle]

The Albanian propaganda goes on... Arvanitika is and idiom not a language and is mixed Greek with Albanian words. Where are the genetics proving they are Albanians?

What's the etymology of Arvanitika?

[Mingle]

Back to the original question, the answer is yes Greeks from Epirus have some Albanian blood as they are neighbors with Albanians and there is some influence but Albanians from southern Albania have more Greek Epirotic influence as they have assimilated more Greek population than Greeks have Albanians. North Epirus once was Greek and now occupied by Albanians.

How and when did they replace Greeks as the main ethnicity in North Epirus?