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    Quote Originally Posted by Ymyyakhtakh View Post

    Even Estonia's average rank is only 59.9, even though it was the highest-ranking white country in PISA in 2018.

    So this International Mathematical Olympiad has nothing to do with reality (normal/average/majority people). As much as for example Eastern European atheletics back in old good communist time.

    More ''streroids'' please ... so I can/you can make the country proud/shine in news ... as it sucks all the other ways.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Swede View Post
    So this International Mathematical Olympiad has nothing to do with reality (normal/average/majority people). As much as for example Eastern European atheletics back in old good communist time.

    More ''streroids'' please ... so I can/you can make the country proud/shine in news ... as it sucks all the other ways.


    Because Scandinavian athletes are as clean as a hungry child's tear.

    Science olympiads are a big thing in Eastern Europe. Gifted students are encouraged to participate in regional levels. Going to international olympiad and winning a medal is the only chance for us to study a scientific course in a prestigious university in USA or UK, like Harvard or Cambridge.

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    If you look back into the formation of the Hungarian state, it is even more remarkable that a people who were living a steppe nomadic lifestyle just decades before, by 1000 managed to found one of the oldest standing states, with strong, continuous institutions to this day in the middle of Europe. The success of Hungary is definitely the consciousness of this old legacy and tradition that we have, which always gave a sort of feeling of uniqueness, even pride, that had driven the population to excel and live up to this legacy. Another thing that helped was the realization that bringing many diverse people together and welcoming them into our community will only make us stronger, better equipped for any future hardships. The credo of our nation is of welcoming and respecting the foreigners, and it was uttered by our first king, Saint Stephen already in the early 11th century in his legendary "Admonitions":

    “For a country of one single language and one set of customs is weak and vulnerable. Therefore I enjoin on you, my son, to protect newcomers benevolently and to hold them in high esteem so that they should stay with your rather than dwell elsewhere."

    Unfortunately our current government is the complete antithesis of the "Admonitions", and choosing self-isolation politics will cost us on the long-term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    Unfortunately our current government is the complete antithesis of the "Admonitions", and choosing self-isolation politics will cost us on the long-term.
    We should adopt the complete european gypsie population + 1 million nigerian + 1 million pakistani & afghan taliban to be more successful.

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    despite the historical hate of Romanians towards Hungarians, nowadays more and more young Romanians (and older intellectual ones) start to appreciate Hungary and admit Hungary's superiority to Romania on many levels, this being a good thing, because now we can get past the enmity and start to learn from Hungarians, to improve our society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lioncourt View Post
    Science olympiads are a big thing in Eastern Europe.
    It's the same with chess. It's bigger in Eastern Europe than Western Europe, so 10 out of the 16 undisputed chess world champions since 1886 have been Russian or Soviet. The number of registered players per capita in FIDE is about 10 times higher for Russia than the United States.

    Here are the federations of the 100 highest-ranked male chess players (https://ratings.fide.com/top_lists.phtml?list=open). Caucasian and Central Asian countries are also strong in chess.

    25 RUS
    9 USA
    9 CHN
    7 UKR
    5 ENG
    5 AZE
    4 IND
    4 ARM
    4 FRA
    4 HUN
    3 ESP
    2 NED
    2 POL
    1 VIE
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    1 SWE
    1 EGY
    1 BUL
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    1 ISR
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    despite the historical hate of Romanians towards Hungarians, nowadays more and more young Romanians (and older intellectual ones) start to appreciate Hungary and admit Hungary's superiority to Romania on many levels, this being a good thing, because now we can get past the enmity and start to learn from Hungarians, to improve our society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lioncourt View Post

    Science olympiads are a big thing in Eastern Europe. Gifted students are encouraged to participate in regional levels. Going to international olympiad and winning a medal is the only chance for us to study a scientific course in a prestigious university in USA or UK, like Harvard or Cambridge.

    Thanks to answer (automatically) to my next question. The one which answer I would have known already....

    So few kids of whole generations have been tested/caught up as their young age ... partly for this purpose (competition). They have been educated special ways vs average kids ... and finally as they become adult age ... they'll move to western countries to benefit those. And the rest of kids will go through school systems which are **** like the PISA shows.

    Pretty nice system ....if purpose is: Look; we (our country) has won some titles!

    Opposite I wonder is that the best / the fastest system to this:
    Develop your country's economy into the levels that others (Western EU) will not anymore need to support you.


    There is time and place to be ''proud''. First one should build strong bases of house before starting to concentrate inside decorations/small details ... by thinking how fancy the covers might look out.

    No other question.


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    Sorry, I have no doubts that Hungarins could not get there. They will; if they are half as smart as Estonians and Finns ... and if they really are even smarter than those... absolutely. I just critized the system (read: Eastern European menthality) ... using/waisting resources/efforts to wrong matters.
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    Good racial stock, and a respect for their culture and origins. I've always been impressed by the ability of Hungarians to resist occupation and carve out their own destiny in their history, now, and hopefully in their future. They are a lesson in how to resist against the global elite.

    My only issue is some of them being Turanists and Turkophiles. The Hungarian flag in their flag is a crown granted to them by Michael VII Doukas, its so odd to see Finno-Ugric descendants larping as Turkics.

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