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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico View Post
    Target: Italian_Veneto
    Distance: 2.2101% / 0.02210118
    58.4 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    35.4 Yamnaya
    6.2 Western_Hunter-Gatherer

    Target: Italian_Bergamo
    Distance: 2.5892% / 0.02589192
    61.2 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    33.0 Yamnaya
    5.8 Western_Hunter-Gatherer

    Still, big amounts of yamnaya, being obvious for proximity and barbaric invasions to North Italy, but near 40% it's A LOT.
    The tribus from Piemonte were Celto-Ligur,like Taurini and Salasi, before Roman control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Me suelen tirar hacia Cantabria muchos pronósticos, sí, aunque no tengo que yo sepa ningún ascendente de la zona.

    Ya sabes, igual mezclando los resultados de mi padre y de mi madre, sale un promedio que coincide con el de Cantabria.
    Exacto, es asi. Imagino a los cantabros y riojanos con una influencia vasca tremenda, por eso son los castellanos que mas marcan WHG, y eso que generalmente todos los de Castilla marcan alrededor de 11~% WHG que es bastante.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico View Post
    Are you fully italian? You score a tremendous amount of yamnaya.


    Target: Italian_Piedmont
    Distance: 2.0524% / 0.02052418
    62.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    34.0 Yamnaya
    4.0 Western_Hunter-Gatherer

    Piedmonteses scores a large amount, comparing to other south europeans but you... Wow.
    Some of these modern samples on G25 are not representative, Swiss Italian and Piedmont in particular seem all over the place

    For Piedmont chances are we are dealing with the Ligurian-speaking isolate from Val Borbera that's sometimes included in few studies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethel View Post
    I think it's plausible that northern italy has an above average yamnaya for southern europe, but yeah almost 40 seems inflated.
    Banned TA member Enr1989, from Friuli with distant Southern Italian ancestry:

    Target: Enr1989_scaled
    Distance: 3.0343% / 0.03034284
    55.2 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    37.4 Yamnaya
    7.4 Western_Hunter-Gatherer

    Spoiler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vid Flumina View Post
    Banned TA member Enr1989, from Friuli with distant Southern Italian ancestry:

    Target: Enr1989_scaled
    Distance: 3.0343% / 0.03034284
    55.2 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    37.4 Yamnaya
    7.4 Western_Hunter-Gatherer

    Spoiler!
    Target: Italian_Northeast
    Distance: 2.4605% / 0.02460514

    54.4 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    38.8 Yamnaya
    6.8 Western_Hunter-Gatherer

    Interesting, you guys have quite a lot of Yamnaya for south european standards, I wonder if that happens with mainland/northern greeks too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethel View Post
    Target: Italian_Northeast
    Distance: 2.4605% / 0.02460514

    54.4 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    38.8 Yamnaya
    6.8 Western_Hunter-Gatherer

    Interesting, you guys have quite a lot of Yamnaya for south european standards, I wonder if that happens with mainland/northern greeks too.
    Northernmost Greeks can be halfway between Thessaly and Bulgarian averages so close but likely more southern (from Macedonia or Thrace). Other Greek regions are nowhere close and are on the same latitude as Central Italy genetically.

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    Why it's so bad for me?

    Target: Andrei_scaled
    Distance: 5.2873% / 0.05287261
    37.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer:Barcin
    25.6 Yamnaya:RUS_Kalmykia
    16.6 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer:Tepecik_Ciftlik
    14.8 Yamnaya:KAZ_Mereke
    5.8 Western_Hunter-Gatherer:BEL_Loschbour
    0.2 Ancient_East_Asia:RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

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    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 3.4201% / 0.03420072
    54.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    29.8 Yamnaya
    12.0 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
    4.2 Ancient_North_Africa

    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 3.6029% / 0.03602935 | ADC: 0.25x
    56.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    30.4 Yamnaya
    11.0 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
    2.6 Ancient_North_Africa

    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 4.7309% / 0.04730908 | ADC: 0.5x
    61.4 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    30.2 Yamnaya
    8.4 Western_Hunter-Gatherer

    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 8.4125% / 0.08412503 | ADC: 1x
    71.6 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    28.4 Yamnaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by andre View Post
    Why it's so bad for me?

    Target: Andrei_scaled
    Distance: 5.2873% / 0.05287261
    37.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer:Barcin
    25.6 Yamnaya:RUS_Kalmykia
    16.6 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer:Tepecik_Ciftlik
    14.8 Yamnaya:KAZ_Mereke
    5.8 Western_Hunter-Gatherer:BEL_Loschbour
    0.2 Ancient_East_Asia:RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
    What is wrong?

    Don´t forget put it "agregate".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 3.4201% / 0.03420072
    54.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    29.8 Yamnaya
    12.0 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
    4.2 Ancient_North_Africa

    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 3.6029% / 0.03602935 | ADC: 0.25x
    56.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    30.4 Yamnaya
    11.0 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
    2.6 Ancient_North_Africa

    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 4.7309% / 0.04730908 | ADC: 0.5x
    61.4 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    30.2 Yamnaya
    8.4 Western_Hunter-Gatherer

    Target: Gallop_scaled
    Distance: 8.4125% / 0.08412503 | ADC: 1x
    71.6 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    28.4 Yamnaya
    El Gran Gallop, un honor que postees los resultados hombre!

    Pues como le dije a gixajo, tus resultados se parecen a los catalanes y los cantabros:

    Target: Spanish_Cataluna
    Distance: 3.2545% / 0.03254504
    55.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer:Barcin
    24.8 Yamnaya:RUS_Samara
    11.8 Western_Hunter-Gatherer:ITA_Grotta_Continenza_Meso
    5.4 Yamnaya:KAZ_Mereke
    2.4 Ancient_North_Africa:MAR_Taforalt
    0.6 Yamnaya:RUS_Kalmykia

    Target: Spanish_Cantabria
    Distance: 3.7652% / 0.03765164
    56.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer:Barcin
    30.6 Yamnaya:RUS_Samara
    11.8 Western_Hunter-Gatherer:ITA_Grotta_Continenza_Meso
    1.6 Ancient_North_Africa:MAR_Taforalt

    Target: Spanish_Cataluna
    Distance: 3.2545% / 0.03254504
    55.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    30.8 Yamnaya
    11.8 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
    2.4 Ancient_North_Africa

    Target: Spanish_Cantabria
    Distance: 3.7652% / 0.03765164
    56.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    30.6 Yamnaya
    11.8 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
    1.6 Ancient_North_Africa

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