Do Greeks look more Western-pan European than other Balkan ethnicities?

[CommonSense]

Those Moldavians are ethnic ones according to the study, how unmixed they are and how these samples were taken I don't know, in that part of Budjak very few Balkan colonists live. That village is fully Moldavian, Slavic surnames are very few. By look they don't look different from other Moldavians, I ould say, some of them look more Slavic than other Moldavians who live in more central and northern parts of the country.

By their genetics, technically they need to look like those Macedonians from the thread about Macedonians from nightclubs opened by JohnnyP, but they look totally different. Knowing the history of that region, is absolutely impossible for people who live in that area to have such results.

Some videos with people from that village:

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I absolutely see what you mean. I even spotted a few girls with pure Baltid phenotypes, kinda like a younger Mary, who's from northern Russia. Many pure blondes as well. Personally, I absoultely advocate that phenotype and genotype correlate much less than people think, but this is quite an extreme contradiction.

[Aileron]

I guess yes, Greeks look less Slavic and look more western compared to others to me

[Dorian]

Samaras isn't the typical , he's the arche-typical...

[Avicenna]

Samaras isn't the typical , he's the arche-typical...

Could you elaborate on that please ?

[Dorian]

Could you elaborate on that please ?

*archetypal
He has the uber-Greek look but average isn't that "uber" since "average" is a mix of types and most overlap with other places easier than he does.

[Ylla]

None of those examples look western to me but they look more mediterranean for sure, I agree it's not the same otherwise even west asians look more western than balkans. Those examples look distinctly south eastern.

[brennus dux gallorum]

None of those examples look western to me but they look more mediterranean for sure, I agree it's not the same otherwise even west asians look more western than balkans. They look distinctly south eastern.

it's not exactly like that. West Asians wouldn't pass easier in southwest Europe than Balkans would, but Greeks pass easier. All Mediterranean looking Balkan people that i have personally seen have strictly southeastern look, but i wouldn't say the same for Greece where an amount of southwest is also common

On the other hand, if by "western Europe" we mean Britain then surely Greeks and Balkan people equally don't pass

[Dimitri159]

Yes, mainland Greeks especially. Fortounis for example looks more western than the average Balkanite.



Or these Greek actresses:

Nice nit-picking. Anyone can do the same exact thing for the opposite message, and it's quite rampant. Those Greek actresses are by far not common among Greek people. Plus they're famous actresses, so aesthetics are different from the average person. You know, professional hairdressers and hair dye, nose jobs, face lifts etc. are more than common among Greek actors/ actresses.

The soccer player though, does look like some Greeks (Alpine with pan-Med influences).

[Dimitri159]

it depends

the old principle of sikeliot was:

-northern Greeks=Balkans
-Southern Greeks=southern European
-Greek islanders and west Anatolians=Sicilians and deep south Italians
-Cappadokians and Pontians= west Asians

I think you can find all of them in one pic:


More western? Well, maybe more than Southern Balkans and Romanians. But not more western than Croats or Slovenes

most of Greeks scored more Atlantic+north sea than Baltic+East_Euro if I correctly recall, but not overwhelmingly more. So it's marginally more western mixed than Southern Balkans


@anaximander the "average Bulgarian" in the op is not really average Bulgarian, I visit Bulgaria more than twice per year

Absolutely none of them look Greek. The ginger at the top is not atypical among Greeks, it's completely absent for a full Greek. The third girl to the right looks mixed with African American. I'm going to use a photo search app find the origins on this photo, because I wouldn't be surprised if this is a some Greek American celebration or game of some sort. If so, then there's a huge chance that they are half Greek or invited by a Greek friend. The only somewhat Greek looking one is at the bottom right.

[Rgvgjhvv]

Absolutely none of them look Greek. The ginger at the top is not atypical among Greeks, it's completely absent for a full Greek. The third girl to the right looks mixed with African American. I'm going to use a photo search app find the origins on this photo, because I wouldn't be surprised if this is a some Greek American celebration or game of some sort. If so, then there's a huge chance that they are half Greek or invited by a Greek friend. The only somewhat Greek looking one is at the bottom right.