IA Tian Shan Nomad Q-L332

**Zoltan** · 04-03-2020, 03:13 PM

Which is the best test/company for autosomal testing?

**Kaspias** · 04-05-2020, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by Zoltan

Which is the best test/company for autosomal testing?

I just saw your comment, sorry for the late reply!

If I were you I would go with FTDNA because it is cheaper and they already have your kit, you won't need to send a separate kit. The raw data which FTDNA provides is the best raw data among other companies, will help you afterward while using G25 and Gedmatch.

Then, if you want to continue your tests, you can go with 23andMe. Because their company result also provides specific regions for you.

**~~Lyonnais~~** · 04-05-2020, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Kaspias

I realized that DA179 Kipchak has a genetic continuum with this sample. Also, the same clade found among Hungarians: https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-YP1695/ (that ERS2374408 is this sample)

DA221

y-DNA: Q-L332
mt-DNA: J1b1a1

Eurogenes K13

Code:

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	26.25
2	North_Atlantic	20.05
3	Siberian	19.13
4	West_Asian	18.55
5	South_Asian	7.13
6	Amerindian	5.46
7	East_Asian	3.19
8	Oceanian	0.24

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Tatar	13.26
2	Chuvash	18.65
3	Mari	20.48
4	Afghan_Turkmen	21.19
5	Nogay	23.3
6	Uzbeki	24.52
7	Aghan_Hazara	26.75
8	Tadjik	26.96
9	Moldavian	27.89
10	Kargopol_Russian	27.98
11	Erzya	28.15
12	Uygur	29.05
13	Hungarian	29.26
14	Ukrainian_Lviv	29.42
15	Afghan_Tadjik	29.61
16	Hazara	29.62
17	Croatian	29.63
18	East_Finnish	30.31
19	Ukrainian_Belgorod	30.46
20	Serbian	30.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	58%	Mari	+	42%	Tadjik	@	8.96
2	 	61%	Chuvash	+	39%	Tadjik	@	9.32
3	 	60.9%	Afghan_Turkmen	+	39.1%	Finnish	@	9.51
4	 	73.2%	Tatar	+	26.8%	Aghan_Hazara	@	9.59
5	 	73.5%	Tatar	+	26.5%	Tadjik	@	9.67
6	 	60.4%	Afghan_Turkmen	+	39.6%	East_Finnish	@	9.72
7	 	61.7%	Afghan_Turkmen	+	38.3%	Southwest_Finnish	@	9.8
8	 	63.2%	Afghan_Turkmen	+	36.8%	Estonian	@	9.85
9	 	68%	Tatar	+	32%	Afghan_Turkmen	@	9.92
10	 	81.8%	Tatar	+	18.2%	Burusho	@	10.08
11	 	76.4%	Tatar	+	23.6%	Afghan_Tadjik	@	10.08
12	 	76.9%	Tatar	+	23.1%	Hazara	@	10.31
13	 	80.1%	Tatar	+	19.9%	Afghan_Pashtun	@	10.34
14	 	72.9%	Tatar	+	27.1%	Uzbeki	@	10.38
15	 	58.4%	Afghan_Turkmen	+	41.6%	Kargopol_Russian	@	10.39
16	 	64.2%	Chuvash	+	35.8%	Afghan_Tadjik	@	10.42
17	 	83.2%	Tatar	+	16.8%	Kalash	@	10.44
18	 	85.6%	Tatar	+	14.4%	Brahui	@	10.45
19	 	85.4%	Tatar	+	14.6%	Balochi	@	10.45
20	 	64.9%	Mari	+	35.1%	Tabassaran	@	10.57

Updated K13, Vahaduo

Code:

Distance to:	K
14.61187531	Tatar
17.40868749	Turk_Dobruja-Tatar
17.88991895	Crimean_Tatar
21.08929823	Chuvash
22.86427781	Mari
23.29788402	Afghan_Turkmen
26.10056704	Nogay
26.62123025	Uzbeki
27.19332271	Turkmen_Uzbekistan
27.49813448	Turk_Sliven-Alevi
28.88236313	Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
29.08211650	Aghan_Hazara
29.26062713	Szekely
29.28562446	Turk_Kardzhali-West
29.45932280	Moldavian
29.49821181	Csango_Gymes
29.54049086	Karakalpak
29.73440263	Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
29.97184679	Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
30.00639265	HungarianTA
30.02921078	Tadjik
30.34699820	Turk_Kardzhali-East
30.49253187	Romanian_Botosani
30.52132206	Uygur
30.54088571	Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain

MDLP K23b

Code:

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	European_Hunters_Gatherers	24.7
2	South_Central_Asian	15.07
3	Ancestral_Altaic	14.84
4	Caucasian	11.87
5	Tungus-Altaic	9.96
6	East_Siberian	8.96
7	Arctic	4.68
8	South_Indian	2.71
9	European_Early_Farmers	2.4
10	Paleo_Siberian	1.75
11	Amerindian	1.73
12	African_Pygmy	0.56
13	Australoid	0.47
14	South_East_Asian	0.29

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Bashkir ( )	10.97
2	Tatar-Siberian ( )	14.26
3	Turkmen_Afghan ( )	16.05
4	Uzbek ( )	16.84
5	Chuvashs ( )	17.12
6	Udmurd ( )	17.65
7	Mari ( )	17.81
8	Uygur-Han ( )	17.89
9	Saami_Finland ( )	18.01
10	Chuvash ( )	18.38
11	Tajik_Tajikistan ( )	18.79
12	Tatar ( )	19.12
13	Komi ( )	19.21
14	Saami ( )	19.63
15	Saami_Kola ( )	19.65
16	Uygur ( )	20.19
17	Turkmen_Uzbekistan ( )	20.39
18	Karakalpak ( )	20.53
19	Hazara ( )	20.58
20	Karelian ( )	20.79

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	85.2%	Bashkir ( )	+	14.8%	Kalash ( )	@	5.26
2	 	84.3%	Bashkir ( )	+	15.7%	Brahui ( )	@	5.65
3	 	83.1%	Bashkir ( )	+	16.9%	Balochi ( )	@	5.75
4	 	82.3%	Bashkir ( )	+	17.7%	Makrani ( )	@	5.91
5	 	79.7%	Bashkir ( )	+	20.3%	Burusho ( )	@	6.46
6	 	83.3%	Bashkir ( )	+	16.7%	Sindhi ( )	@	6.47
7	 	74.8%	Bashkir ( )	+	25.2%	Tajik_Pomiri_Ishkashim ( )	@	6.74
8	 	81.1%	Bashkir ( )	+	18.9%	Pathan ( )	@	6.83
9	 	83.6%	Bashkir ( )	+	16.4%	Punjabi_Gujjar ( )	@	6.97
10	 	55.5%	Saami ( )	+	44.5%	Uzbek_Afghan ( )	@	7.08
11	 	74.5%	Bashkir ( )	+	25.5%	Tajik_Pomiri_Shugnan ( )	@	7.16
12	 	78.2%	Bashkir ( )	+	21.8%	Pashtun_Afghani ( )	@	7.22
13	 	54.2%	Saami ( )	+	45.8%	Tajik_Afghan ( )	@	7.23
14	 	84.6%	Bashkir ( )	+	15.4%	GujaratiA_GIH ( )	@	7.26
15	 	85.2%	Bashkir ( )	+	14.8%	Pakistani ( )	@	7.52
16	 	83.5%	Bashkir ( )	+	16.5%	Jatt_Pahari ( )	@	7.54
17	 	75.5%	Bashkir ( )	+	24.5%	Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( )	@	7.59
18	 	84.8%	Bashkir ( )	+	15.2%	Jatt_Muslim ( )	@	7.74
19	 	82.8%	Bashkir ( )	+	17.2%	Jatt_Haryana ( )	@	7.79
20	 	74.7%	Bashkir ( )	+	25.3%	Uzbek_Afghan ( )	@	7.89

Dodecad K12b

Code:

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	North_European	37.41
2	Gedrosia	20.81
3	Siberian	17.28
4	East_Asian	11.57
5	Atlantic_Med	7.58
6	Caucasus	2.6
7	South_Asian	2.41
8	Sub_Saharan	0.35

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Chuvashs (Behar)	23.18
2	Uzbeks (Behar)	26.25
3	Tajiks (Yunusbayev)	28.63
4	Uygur (HGDP)	32.65
5	Hazara (HGDP)	33.15
6	Mordovians (Yunusbayev)	34.33
7	Russian (HGDP)	35.36
8	Nogais (Yunusbayev)	35.55
9	Hungarians (Behar)	35.66
10	German (Dodecad)	36.71
11	Turkmens (Yunusbayev)	37.46
12	Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)	38.11
13	Russian (Dodecad)	38.35
14	Swedish (Dodecad)	38.57
15	Dutch (Dodecad)	38.94
16	Mixed_Slav (Dodecad)	39.09
17	Romanians (Behar)	39.24
18	Ukranians (Yunusbayev)	39.24
19	Norwegian (Dodecad)	39.31
20	Russian_B (Behar)	39.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	74.9%	Chuvashs (Behar)	+	25.1%	Brahui (HGDP)	@	11.05
2	 	56.3%	Hazara (HGDP)	+	43.7%	FIN30 (1000Genomes)	@	11.53
3	 	73.7%	Chuvashs (Behar)	+	26.3%	Balochi (HGDP)	@	11.59
4	 	57.4%	Hazara (HGDP)	+	42.6%	Finnish (Dodecad)	@	11.8
5	 	73.4%	Chuvashs (Behar)	+	26.6%	Makrani (HGDP)	@	11.82
6	 	61%	Chuvashs (Behar)	+	39%	Hazara (HGDP)	@	12.15
7	 	67%	Chuvashs (Behar)	+	33%	Burusho (HGDP)	@	12.19
8	 	63.2%	Uzbeks (Behar)	+	36.8%	FIN30 (1000Genomes)	@	12.33
9	 	64.3%	Uzbeks (Behar)	+	35.7%	Finnish (Dodecad)	@	12.54
10	 	51.9%	Hazara (HGDP)	+	48.1%	Russian (HGDP)	@	12.68
11	 	57%	Chuvashs (Behar)	+	43%	Tajiks (Yunusbayev)	@	12.74
12	 	51%	Hazara (HGDP)	+	49%	Mordovians (Yunusbayev)	@	13.18
13	 	54.4%	Chuvashs (Behar)	+	45.6%	Uzbeks (Behar)	@	13.34
14	 	73.2%	Chuvashs (Behar)	+	26.8%	Sindhi (HGDP)	@	13.34
15	 	61.3%	Chuvashs (Behar)	+	38.7%	Uygur (HGDP)	@	13.61
16	 	59.3%	Uzbeks (Behar)	+	40.7%	Russian (HGDP)	@	13.88
17	 	60.1%	Hazara (HGDP)	+	39.9%	Lithuanians (Behar)	@	13.97
18	 	70.5%	Chuvashs (Behar)	+	29.5%	Jatt (Dodecad)	@	14.09
19	 	69.1%	Chuvashs (Behar)	+	30.9%	Pathan (HGDP)	@	14.09
20	 	58.7%	Uzbeks (Behar)	+	41.3%	Mordovians (Yunusbayev)	@	14.43

Harappa

Code:

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	NE-Euro	37.44
2	Baloch	19.97
3	Siberian	15.55
4	NE-Asian	8.37
5	Caucasian	6.55
6	American	3.95
7	Beringian	3.09
8	Mediterranean	2.64
9	S-Indian	1.57
10	Papuan	0.56
11	W-African	0.3

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	chuvash (behar)	17.23
2	uzbek (behar)	26.26
3	tajik (yunusbayev)	27.99
4	mordovian (yunusbayev)	28.31
5	russian (hgdp)	30.61
6	uyghur (hgdp)	31.66
7	hungarian (behar)	31.68
8	ukranian (yunusbayev)	31.79
9	slovenian (xing)	31.9
10	nogai (yunusbayev)	32.58
11	hazara (hgdp)	32.65
12	kazakh (harappa)	32.75
13	romanian-a (behar)	33.55
14	russian (behar)	33.91
15	turkmen (yunusbayev)	34.77
16	bulgarian (yunusbayev)	35.03
17	belorussian (behar)	35.07
18	n-european (xing)	35.3
19	utahn-white (hapmap)	35.88
20	utahn-white (1000genomes)	36.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	72%	chuvash (behar)	+	28%	burusho (hgdp)	@	8.5
2	 	64.1%	chuvash (behar)	+	35.9%	tajik (yunusbayev)	@	8.71
3	 	68%	chuvash (behar)	+	32%	hazara (hgdp)	@	8.85
4	 	77.6%	chuvash (behar)	+	22.4%	brahui (hgdp)	@	8.98
5	 	76.9%	chuvash (behar)	+	23.1%	balochi (hgdp)	@	9.09
6	 	77.2%	chuvash (behar)	+	22.8%	makrani (hgdp)	@	9.11
7	 	62.9%	chuvash (behar)	+	37.1%	uzbek (behar)	@	9.35
8	 	67.7%	chuvash (behar)	+	32.3%	uyghur (hgdp)	@	9.48
9	 	74.5%	chuvash (behar)	+	25.5%	bhatia (harappa)	@	9.62
10	 	74.1%	chuvash (behar)	+	25.9%	kalash (hgdp)	@	9.78
11	 	73.6%	chuvash (behar)	+	26.4%	pathan (hgdp)	@	9.93
12	 	77%	chuvash (behar)	+	23%	sindhi (hgdp)	@	10.09
13	 	71.7%	chuvash (behar)	+	28.3%	pashtun (harappa)	@	10.11
14	 	74.9%	chuvash (behar)	+	25.1%	sindhi (harappa)	@	10.14
15	 	76%	chuvash (behar)	+	24%	nepalese-c (xing)	@	10.21
16	 	77%	chuvash (behar)	+	23%	punjabi-arain (xing)	@	10.36
17	 	75.4%	chuvash (behar)	+	24.6%	kashmiri (harappa)	@	10.49
18	 	74.5%	chuvash (behar)	+	25.5%	punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa)	@	10.56
19	 	75.3%	chuvash (behar)	+	24.7%	punjabi-khatri (harappa)	@	10.73
20	 	77.4%	chuvash (behar)	+	22.6%	kashmiri-pahari (harappa)	@	10.76

G25 Ancient

Code:

Distance to:	KAZ_Nomad_IA:DA221
0.10360855	RUS_Okunevo_BA
0.10615962	KAZ_Kazakh_steppe_EMBA
0.10666272	KAZ_Kanai_MBA
0.10780216	KAZ_Dali_EBA
0.10830271	RUS_Bolshoy_Oleni_Ostrov
0.10889849	RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o3
0.10895421	RUS_Krasnoyarsk_MLBA_o
0.11003343	RUS_Steppe_Maykop
0.11007061	KAZ_Kumsay_EBA
0.11013507	KAZ_Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA_o
0.11027386	KAZ_Mereke_MBA
0.11045367	RUS_Sosonivoy_HG
0.11076370	KAZ_Zevakinskiy_LBA
0.11092056	RUS_Lola
0.11100990	KAZ_Maitan_MLBA_Alakul_o
0.11127912	RUS_Karasuk
0.11138284	MNG_Hovsgol_BA_o2
0.11149381	KAZ_Kairan_MLBA_o
0.11157567	RUS_Khvalynsk_En
0.11168889	RUS_Bolshoy_Oleni_Ostrov_o
0.11194191	RUS_Potapovka_MLBA_o
0.11209870	KAZ_Botai
0.11212268	RUS_Priobrazhenka_LBA
0.11214593	RUS_Altai_IA
0.11240977	RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA_o

G25 Modern

Code:

Distance to:	KAZ_Nomad_IA:DA221
0.07564578	Bashkir
0.07853392	Udmurt
0.07922578	Besermyan
0.08180844	Tatar_Lipka
0.08818252	Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.08875154	Turkmen
0.09267735	Tatar_Kazan
0.09735141	Uzbek
0.10543146	Tatar_Siberian
0.10662605	Tajik
0.11063058	Saami
0.11093268	Chuvash
0.11849482	Komi
0.11896903	Tajik_Shugnan
0.12181635	Tajik_Ishkashim
0.12238536	Tajik_Rushan
0.12245274	Tatar_Mishar
0.12989917	Hazara_Afghanistan
0.13229446	Nogai
0.13287499	Mari
0.13333380	Kho_Singanali
0.13727776	Uygur
0.13973845	Burusho
0.14056138	Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
0.14283519	Hazara

Ancient G25 is a joke.