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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Mine is from Sirota, Moldova, and I can only trace it to the 1920s, because my grandpa lost his parents in a car accident as a kid and being the only child was raised by his grandparents. So understandably, not a lot of people asked my grandpa about his past, hence I don't know much about his ancestors.
    My grandpa and great-grandpa identified as Romanian/Moldovan, but their the village is historically recorded as being Ruthenian.
    "SÂROTA, ruseşte Sirota, de la cuvântul rus „orfan", sătuc, în jud. Orhei, în valea Cohâlnicului, spre V. de centrul volostei Chiprieni. Are 33 case, cu o popu-laţie de 198 suflete, ţărani ruteni."

    My line is I-PH908 and I'm negative for all known sub-branches below it.
    Now that I'm looking at this video from the village, those men that were filmed seem to have heavy Dinarid noses
    My father's is very upturned though. The classic I-PH908 Dinarid nose comes from my maternal grandma and mom.

    https://moldova.europalibera.org/a/27204442.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Est.1992 View Post
    I was able to identify my paternal line place of origin, and it is village Klobuk in western Herzegovina, very close to Croatian border.
    My grand-grandpa was muslim, but in Klobuk only Croats live and there are still Catholics carrying our surname living there.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klobuk,_Ljubu%C5%A1ki



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    My great-great-grandfather was from Piedmont, Italy

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    According e-state records, my great grandpa is from Prijepolje/Serbia. Our family records in paternal side starts with him in Turkey (He is no:1 and I am 10 as great grandson).

    He was a muslim and they don't have any migration stories rather than my great grandpa's to Turkey. My great grandpa came to Turkey for war voluntarily (They were called 'djurumlija').


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    I only can look back to around 1850´s in my paternal line, with documents. True and documented direct lineage, not assumptions obtained trhough surnames. My maternal lineage is easier to investigate because I lived in the same place, in it I can go back to the end of XV century thanks to bauptism certificates and other documented data.

    In that time, my paternal ancestor had 2 Spanish surnames, and was born in the same small Andalusian city, in Úbeda, Jaén province.What is strange is that supposedly my Y-Dna haplogrup is r1a1a1, and is quite rare in Spain, so probably some of my ancestor could be from East Europe. I am doing research about this, specially in lists of central European colons that arrived near that city from the year 1767. But they are other options that could explain my (most likely) haplogroup.

    So, all that I can assume of my paternal lineage, links him with this little city:



    And the local countryside is this:



    Úbeda with the neighbouring city of Baeza, are Wolrd heritage Sites.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Abeda

    The article in Spanish has more information and better images:

    https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Abeda

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    Quote Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum View Post
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    I've just read that Klobuk means hat. It's a very fitting name considering the hill behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Now that I'm looking at this video from the village, those men that were filmed seem to have heavy Dinarid noses
    My father's is very upturned though. The classic I-PH908 Dinarid nose comes from my maternal grandma and mom.

    https://moldova.europalibera.org/a/27204442.html
    My father has small and very wide CM (Borreby) nose. I don't think dinarid nose is mark of PH908, rather of lineages like J-L283 and R-L23 predating Slavs on Balkan.

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    Part of my paternal line is from here (Rumilly/L'Albanais area) :




    "Allobroges vaillants ! Dans vos vertes campagnes,
    Accordez-moi toujours asile et sûreté,
    Car j'aime à respirer l'air pur de vos montagnes,
    Je suis la Liberté ! la Liberté !"


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