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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Thanks, I'll get them, as that's a different set from the ones that I have.

    Yes, my analysis is buried somewhere in this thread.

    But TL;DR

    These are unmixed:
    CM2678489
    ZW2326107
    QY8192067
    JR2297171
    CZ7344575

    This one scores in the Moldovan range but is recently mixed going by matches:
    GG5842270

    Full Russian and Ukrainian:
    JA8090639
    JR6490623


    3/4 Ukrainian, 1/4 Roma:
    DN1116786
    did you analyze the Romanian samples from here?
    https://evolbio.ut.ee/jew/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Ukrainian from Floresti
    Please share his Dodecad components.

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    The partially Romani Ukrainian is interesting

    Population
    Gedrosia 6.53 Pct
    Siberian 1.35 Pct
    Northwest_African 0.45 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 19.26 Pct
    North_European 49.11 Pct
    South_Asian 7.62 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 2.96 Pct
    East_Asian 0.17 Pct
    Caucasus 12.40 Pct
    Sub_Saharan 0.11 Pct

    Target: Ukr-Roma
    Distance: 1.3475% / 1.34749191 | ADC: 0.25x
    70.2 Ukrainian
    18.0 Rus_Kostroma
    5.8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
    4.4 Hakkipikki
    1.2 North_Kannadi
    0.4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh

    Perhaps I could get a better fit by deleting some of the populations.
    Last edited by Leto; 06-26-2020 at 04:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    did you analyze the Romanian samples from here?
    https://evolbio.ut.ee/jew/
    Hmm no, I'm wondering if those are the Behar samples. I'll take a look either in the evening or tomorrow. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Please share his Dodecad components.
    Here you go:
    Population
    Gedrosia 2.23 Pct
    Siberian 0.86 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 22.41 Pct
    North_European 55.04 Pct
    South_Asian 1.56 Pct
    East_African 1.07 Pct
    Southwest_Asian 1.43 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 15.40 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

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    Distance to: MD-Ukr
    3.84204373 Ukrainian
    4.60158668 PL_Mazovia
    4.90499745 Rus_Smolensk
    5.22980879 Rus_Kostroma
    5.42155882 Belorussian
    7.13655379 Rus_Tver
    7.32351691 Sorb_Lusatia
    7.39269910 Southwest_Rus
    8.63756910 Hungarians
    11.39108862 Mixed_Slav

    Target: MD-Ukr
    Distance: 2.6822% / 2.68215901 | ADC: 0.5x
    51.8 PL_Mazovia
    41.0 Ukrainian
    7.2 Bulgarians

    Target: MD-Ukr
    Distance: 1.6292% / 1.62915917 | ADC: 0.25x
    81.2 PL_Mazovia
    12.8 Bulgarians
    5.4 Mixed_Slav
    0.4 Sandawe_He
    0.2 Pulliyar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Distance to: MD-Ukr
    3.84204373 Ukrainian
    4.60158668 PL_Mazovia
    4.90499745 Rus_Smolensk
    5.22980879 Rus_Kostroma
    5.42155882 Belorussian
    7.13655379 Rus_Tver
    7.32351691 Sorb_Lusatia
    7.39269910 Southwest_Rus
    8.63756910 Hungarians
    11.39108862 Mixed_Slav

    Target: MD-Ukr
    Distance: 2.6822% / 2.68215901 | ADC: 0.5x
    51.8 PL_Mazovia
    41.0 Ukrainian
    7.2 Bulgarians

    Target: MD-Ukr
    Distance: 1.6292% / 1.62915917 | ADC: 0.25x
    81.2 PL_Mazovia
    12.8 Bulgarians
    5.4 Mixed_Slav
    0.4 Sandawe_He
    0.2 Pulliyar
    The default Oracles for K12b on GEDmatch are absolutely horrible for this sample.

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    From Capaclia, Cantemir, R. Moldova
    1/8 Ukrainian, but that's too distant, so basically unmixed

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 25.66
    2 Baltic 20.54
    3 West_Med 19.38
    4 East_Med 19.11
    5 West_Asian 7.46
    6 Red_Sea 3.14
    7 Siberian 1.97
    8 East_Asian 1.73
    9 Northeast_African 0.71
    10 Oceanian 0.31

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Romanian 5.92
    2 Bulgarian 6.67
    3 Serbian 7.95
    4 Greek_Thessaly 9.97
    5 North_Italian 11.2
    6 Tuscan 11.64
    7 Moldavian 14.7
    8 Italian_Abruzzo 14.91
    9 Hungarian 15.31
    10 West_Sicilian 15.51
    11 Portuguese 16.28
    12 Central_Greek 16.58
    13 Austrian 16.83
    14 Spanish_Galicia 16.97
    15 Croatian 16.98
    16 French 17.06
    17 East_Sicilian 17.37
    18 Spanish_Extremadura 17.4
    19 Spanish_Cataluna 17.99
    20 Spanish_Murcia 18.26

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 74.3% Tuscan + 25.7% Erzya @ 2.1
    2 73.4% Tuscan + 26.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.28
    3 71.1% Tuscan + 28.9% Southwest_Russian @ 2.53
    4 71.5% Tuscan + 28.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.76
    5 68.4% Tuscan + 31.6% Ukrainian @ 2.77
    6 69% West_Sicilian + 31% Estonian @ 2.81
    7 72.7% Tuscan + 27.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.83
    8 56.1% Tuscan + 43.9% Moldavian @ 2.86
    9 60.4% Serbian + 39.6% Tuscan @ 2.9
    10 66.7% West_Sicilian + 33.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.92
    11 68.6% West_Sicilian + 31.4% Finnish @ 2.93
    12 67.4% Tuscan + 32.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.93
    13 75.4% Tuscan + 24.6% East_Finnish @ 2.95
    14 75.1% Bulgarian + 24.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.97
    15 72.5% Tuscan + 27.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.99
    16 73.1% Tuscan + 26.9% Belorussian @ 3.01
    17 72.9% Bulgarian + 27.1% Portuguese @ 3.02
    18 75.8% Tuscan + 24.2% Lithuanian @ 3.04
    19 59.8% Tuscan + 40.2% Croatian @ 3.08
    20 60.9% West_Sicilian + 39.1% South_Polish @ 3.08

    Distance to: Cantemir
    7.50525149 Moldova_South
    9.22417476 Gagauz
    11.71836166 Moldova_Centre
    15.80900376 Moldova_North
    20.64463126 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
    26.64522096 Ukrainian_Lviv
    27.83752683 Crimean_Tatar
    27.97768933 Ukrainian
    30.80834140 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
    33.50253274 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
    33.82336175 Russian_Smolensk
    40.54052764 RU_Pinega


    Target: Cantemir
    Distance: 7.5053% / 7.50525149 | ADC: 0.25x
    100.0 Moldova_South
    0.0 Crimean_Tatar
    0.0 Gagauz
    0.0 Moldova_Centre
    0.0 Moldova_North
    0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
    0.0 Ukrainian
    0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
    0.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
    0.0 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
    0.0 RU_Pinega
    0.0 Russian_Smolensk


    Target: Cantemir
    Distance: 7.5053% / 7.50525149
    100.0 Moldova_South
    0.0 Crimean_Tatar
    0.0 Gagauz
    0.0 Moldova_Centre
    0.0 Moldova_North
    0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
    0.0 Ukrainian
    0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
    0.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
    0.0 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
    0.0 RU_Pinega
    0.0 Russian_Smolensk

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    Apparently at least some (if not all) Balkan natives did resemble Southern or Central Italians.

    74.3% Tuscan + 25.7% Erzya @ 2.1

    @Ion Basescul, are your Moldovan averages for Dodecad K12b good enough and don't need revisiting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Apparently at least some (if not all) Balkan natives did resemble Southern or Central Italians.

    74.3% Tuscan + 25.7% Erzya @ 2.1

    @Ion Basescul, are your Moldovan averages for Dodecad K12b good enough and don't need revisiting?
    They are outdated by now, as I gave you only my family, the Centre-North samples from Balti and South samples from Stefan Voda.
    But I'm not using K12b, so I won't calculate the others anytime soon.

    Those averages are from 46 unmixed samples and now I have 87, so you are 41 samples behind.

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