Is anyone here as English as me?

[JamesBond007]

Outdate map. Are you autistic?

You don't seem understand the concept of "genetic".

[Creoda]

I contrived a simple model with Ireland, Sweden, Northern France, and NW Spain to show the difference in pull between myself and the English sample.

Target: Me
Distance: 2.9204% / 0.02920436
44.8	Irish
29.2	Swedish
26.0	Spanish_Asturias

Target: English
Distance: 0.6518% / 0.00651751
61.4	Irish
21.0	French_Nord
15.6	Swedish
2.0	Spanish_Asturias

I have more pull to both Scandinavia and SW Europe, England avg has more pull to Ireland and North France.

Post your scaled coordinates and I'll plot you in the Northern European PCA, see if you fall in the English cluster.

[RyoHazuki]

Post your scaled coordinates and I'll plot in you in the Northern European PCA, see if you fall in the English cluster.

I'll DM. I predict I am closer to the fringe of English cluster.

[Grace O'Malley]

I contrived a simple model with Ireland, Sweden, Northern France, and NW Spain to show the difference in pull between myself and the English sample.

Target: Me
Distance: 2.9204% / 0.02920436
44.8	Irish
29.2	Swedish
26.0	Spanish_Asturias

Target: English
Distance: 0.6518% / 0.00651751
61.4	Irish
21.0	French_Nord
15.6	Swedish
2.0	Spanish_Asturias

I have more pull to both Scandinavia and SW Europe, England avg has more pull to Ireland and North France.

Yes that's better. The Brittany sample is very like British. They are clustering with Northwest Europeans but if you look at the samples together you can see they have slightly different pulls. A good gauge is to look at where Belgium is for these populations. Of course Brittany is going to be closer to Belgians but for Irish and Scots Scandinavians are closer than Belgians. This sort of shows a particular shift. I'll add England below. If you look at the Bretons though they get all the Northwestern populations before French region. I should look at what French_Nord gets.

[RyoHazuki]

Yes that's better. The Brittany sample is very like British. They are clustering with Northwest Europeans but if you look at the samples together you can see they have slightly different pulls. A good gauge is to look at where Belgium is for these populations. Of course Brittany is going to be closer to Belgians but for Irish and Scots Scandinavians are closer than Belgians. This sort of shows a particular shift. I'll add England below. If you look at the Bretons though they get all the Northwestern populations before French region. I should look at what French_Nord gets.

That's a good point, I never looked at it that way. Considering our distances now makes sense.

You
0.02336456 Norwegian
0.02659290 Swedish
0.04070340 Belgian

Myself
0.03816967 Belgian
0.04379272 Swedish
0.04443804 Norwegian

[Grace O'Malley]

What I also find interesting if you look at the above is that the Welsh are closer to the Germans even before Icelandic. The English are closer to Germans before the Scandinavians. It would be interesting to see if Danes were included in the G25.

[RyoHazuki]

What I also find interesting if you look at the above is that the Welsh are closer to the Germans even before Icelandic. The English are closer to Germans before the Scandinavians. It would be interesting to see if Danes were included in the G25.

I assume its England and Wales facing continental invasions on a wider scale than Scandinavian ones. Conquest never necessarily means intermarriage between peoples, but its an idea.

[JamesBond007]

What I also find interesting if you look at the above is that the Welsh are closer to the Germans even before Icelandic. The English are closer to Germans before the Scandinavians. It would be interesting to see if Danes were included in the G25.

Thanks Grace. Sorry, I know this thread is not about me but I have been trying to make sure of my genetics for years now. So the English and Welsh are closer to the Dutch and Germans and the Scots and Irish are closer to the Scandinavians but my G25 calculator says I am closest to Dutch and Norwegians and then to the Welsh and Irish so I am feeling like some kind of freak or outcast right now

[Creoda]

I'll DM. I predict I am closer to the fringe of English cluster.

You fall within the English, Cornish, Irish and just within the Scottish, Dutch and German clusters.

[Grace O'Malley]

You fall within the English, Cornish, Irish and just within the Scottish, Dutch and German clusters.

Can you plot me on there as well? I've been interested in a comparison. Is it okay if I send you my coordinates? Thanks