Is anyone here as English as me?

**~~JamesBond007~~** · 03-28-2020, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by RyoHazuki

I tried and it basically gave me this. It says I'm Orcadian (Nordic + Celtic) + Norwegian. It even shows you are more southern than me (England is more south than Orkney).

Genetically closer to Northern Swedes than even France.

G25 and Dodecad K12b tell me I'm closest to Dutch. Do I look freaking Dutch to you ? I don't think so broham !

**Morticia** · 03-28-2020, 04:06 AM

Close, but not quite. I have a significant amount of German and Scandinavian admixture, and I score closer to SE English and NW German.

**RyoHazuki** · 03-28-2020, 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by Morticia

Close, but not quite. I have a significant amount of German and Scandinavian admixture, and I score closer to SE English and NW German.

The Anglo consumes all.

**Morticia** · 03-28-2020, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by RyoHazuki

The Anglo consumes all.

I just glanced at your 23andMe results. I actually scored much more English than you. hahahaha

**RyoHazuki** · 03-28-2020, 04:11 AM

Originally Posted by JamesBond007

G25 and Dodecad K12b tell me I'm closest to Dutch. Do I look freaking Dutch to you ? I don't think so broham !

Its not about my looks, its just about matching my paper trail. I've studied Anglo genetics for a while and despite being mixed, I am still closest to the Northern most parts of the isles, according to genetic tests.

**Grace O'Malley** · 03-28-2020, 04:12 AM

What reference are you using. Could you post it? Is it the LivingDNA G25 one?

I don't get English in my breakdowns for some reason even though I'm close distance wise.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6967% / 0.01696669
50.0 Irish
45.6 Icelandic
3.6 Swedish
0.8 North_Ossetian

Just used my own selection just for this purpose so it wouldn't be good for everyone.

Code:

English,0.1318551,0.137043,0.0617883,0.044013,0.0392299,0.0167481,0.0049845,0.0057448,0.0052637,0.0056781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0.0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05
English_Cornwall,0.1301962,0.1397525,0.0613546,0.0431826,0.0419013,0.0164115,0.0034346,0.0063902,0.0064819,0.0069669,-0.0046342,0.0064788,-0.0137455,-0.0102476,0.0207548,0.003172,-0.012527,0.0021146,0.0037613,0.0032419,0.0048088,0.0038712,-0.0007584,0.0143671,0.0006909
Irish,0.1334042,0.134875,0.0610876,0.0482532,0.0383388,0.0188992,0.003,0.0047738,0.0031318,0.002725,-0.00714,0.005606,-0.0143759,-0.0139278,0.0253478,0.0048208,-0.0110725,0.0022052,0.0007502,0.0013385,0.0051745,0.0012249,-0.0003563,0.0147667,0.0010665
Greenlander_East,0.0700643,-0.2359412,0.1051331,0.0495984,-0.0797413,-0.0245733,-0.091863,-0.1047136,0.0029314,-0.0125338,0.0149576,-0.0039798,0.0044763,-0.0187779,-0.0246407,-0.011211,-0.0030858,0.0127111,0.0310474,0.0162994,0.0237359,-0.0373844,0.0080932,0.0308077,0.0343018
Greenlander_West,0.0803086,-0.176815,0.0983029,0.0511417,-0.0626783,-0.0164546,-0.0725662,-0.0846119,0.0048404,-0.0102052,0.0149939,-0.0044959,0.0026099,-0.0120343,-0.0145072,-0.0102096,-0.0069827,0.0084882,0.0223184,0.0142428,0.0193824,-0.0296767,0.0071484,0.0268444,0.0274626
Icelandic,0.1326987,0.1336267,0.067819,0.0563097,0.0393663,0.0229619,0.0033488,0.0085188,0.0026418,6.07e-05,-0.0054806,0.0051702,-0.0063675,-0.0090831,0.0230725,0.0052924,-0.0116909,0.0019109,0.0017389,0.0038873,0.0092545,0.0028028,-0.0008422,0.0140179,0.0008282
Lithuanian_PA,0.1337421,0.1241485,0.0796195,0.074613,0.0421616,0.0291092,0.0087244,0.0134128,-0.0037324,-0.0263102,-0.0035118,-0.0091044,0.0186756,0.0266472,-0.0118755,0.0034972,0.0042865,0.0010292,0.0039282,0.0012351,-0.0060519,-0.0032921,0.0093979,-0.006552,-0.0002845
Lithuanian_PZ,0.1356773,0.1255195,0.0883971,0.0871131,0.044562,0.035447,0.0106459,0.0156685,-0.0030065,-0.0347524,-0.0067879,-0.0129784,0.0230573,0.0315155,-0.0071118,-0.0032219,-0.0034813,-0.0016344,0.000817,0.0034265,-0.0023459,-0.0059477,0.0084426,-0.0090132,0.0005148
Lithuanian_RA,0.135108,0.1240977,0.083306,0.0805239,0.0431158,0.0294229,0.0123146,0.015207,-0.0044994,-0.0323469,-0.0030203,-0.012469,0.0240532,0.0300018,-0.0152957,0.0017237,0.0070014,-0.0013936,0.00494,0.0030138,-0.0053282,-0.0060342,0.010057,-0.0066392,-0.0003714
Lithuanian_SZ,0.1347664,0.1258242,0.0861344,0.0877268,0.0448392,0.0315424,0.0128081,0.0185529,-0.0019633,-0.0353537,-0.0039137,-0.0127386,0.0235031,0.0296026,-0.0123914,0.0018563,0.005111,-0.0012796,0.0020866,0.0021511,-0.0029574,-0.0067636,0.0070251,-0.0104229,0.0029337
Lithuanian_VA,0.1344249,0.1257226,0.0824762,0.0750975,0.0433311,0.027889,0.0099878,0.014884,-0.0020454,-0.0298685,-0.0029553,-0.0138328,0.0200394,0.0280062,-0.0110613,0.0029435,0.0061411,-0.0005702,0.0023129,0.0061155,-0.003731,-0.00481,0.0072346,-0.0078805,-0.0008622
Lithuanian_VZ,0.1372991,0.1261795,0.0850879,0.082365,0.0444314,0.0326652,0.0104872,0.0176242,-0.0036048,-0.0315269,-0.0036131,-0.0097039,0.0199762,0.0301394,-0.0104505,-0.0045578,-0.0006029,0.0012828,0.0032525,0.0013445,-0.0043829,-0.0056728,0.00835,-0.005874,-0.001317
Swedish,0.1340007,0.1283722,0.0715329,0.0557909,0.0414202,0.0213225,0.006847,0.0089682,0.0046947,-0.0067261,-0.004451,0.001635,-0.0048315,-0.0036907,0.0150773,0.0039838,-0.0074379,0.002004,0.003851,0.0046385,0.0064205,0.0021357,0.0009244,0.0106969,-0.0002994
Tabasaran,0.1114592,0.1049901,-0.0241356,0.007106,-0.0390842,0.0101688,0.0074478,-0.0053075,-0.0561496,-0.0344145,-0.001449,0.0038848,-0.009743,-0.0096229,0.0149083,0.0011727,0.001675,-0.0020565,-0.0031908,0.0054737,-0.0018526,0.0002662,0.0048351,0.0093523,-0.0034174
Welsh,0.1319779,0.1381628,0.0601319,0.0430236,0.0405922,0.0166218,0.0033135,0.006392,0.0062789,0.0043372,-0.0042302,0.0059122,-0.0129112,-0.0109754,0.0205954,0.005708,-0.0087032,0.0023564,0.003086,0.0020072,0.0049849,0.0038518,-1.24e-05,0.0112243,0.0008083
North_Ossetian,0.103579,0.0873353,-0.0301697,-0.023902,-0.0405203,0.0052987,0.0123773,-0.0014617,-0.05379,-0.030555,-0.0025983,0.0074933,-0.0183347,-0.0023857,0.010903,-0.0201977,0.0035637,-0.006292,-0.0139527,0.016633,0.0067797,0.0016483,-0.001479,-0.0090373,-0.0029937
Norwegian,0.1338234,0.1279567,0.0679357,0.0534334,0.0386443,0.0210366,0.0041964,0.0062964,0.0057267,0.0003906,-0.0037349,0.0036823,-0.007518,-0.011698,0.0210754,0.0093949,-0.0054203,0.0026061,0.0006823,0.0007503,0.005633,0.0055643,0.0042784,0.0177304,0.0010947
Dutch,0.1267527,0.1313048,0.0610935,0.0461486,0.040469,0.0166244,0.0065435,0.0080802,0.003576,0.0003275,-0.0064447,0.0045873,-0.0087082,-0.0088422,0.0174443,0.005345,-0.0082143,0.0012669,0.0042698,0.0028138,0.0046909,0.0028672,0.0002678,0.0153541,-0.0004921
Scottish,0.1314657,0.1342312,0.0622654,0.0470426,0.039106,0.0172812,0.0035502,0.0051756,0.0035719,0.0028246,-0.005614,0.0050473,-0.0116806,-0.0119731,0.023024,0.0031254,-0.0112549,0.0027736,0.0025499,0.0014516,0.0042246,0.0033076,-0.0006559,0.0135561,-0.0007698

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.01875615 Irish
0.01914452 Icelandic
0.01963632 Scottish
0.02206228 English
0.02219810 Welsh
0.02336456 Norwegian
0.02454052 English_Cornwall
0.02458960 Dutch
0.02659290 Swedish
0.08382141 Lithuanian_PA
0.08664242 Lithuanian_VA
0.09099926 Lithuanian_VZ
0.09494843 Lithuanian_RA
0.09543377 Lithuanian_PZ
0.09755705 Lithuanian_SZ
0.15116471 Tabasaran
0.17548136 North_Ossetian
0.36569013 Greenlander_West
0.43681103 Greenlander_East

**RyoHazuki** · 03-28-2020, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by Morticia

I just glanced at your 23andMe results. I actually scored much more English than you. hahahaha

Contradicting genetic results confuse me.

**~~JamesBond007~~** · 03-28-2020, 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by RyoHazuki

So exactly why does UK + Spain = England on G25?

Code:

Distance: 2.7162% / 0.02716245
92.2	Great_Britain_&_Ireland:English
3.6	East_Germanic:German_East
2.2	East_African_Afro-Asiatic:Ethiopian_Amhara
1.0	Arabia:Yemenite_Al_Jawf
0.8	North_Italy:Italian_Liguria
0.2	Southern_African_Khoisan:Khomani_San

Distance: 2.8316% / 0.02831632 | ADC: 0.5x
98.4	Great_Britain_&_Ireland:English
1.2	East_African_Afro-Asiatic:Ethiopian_Amhara
0.4	North_Italy:Italian_Liguria

What custom calculator is that and is it scaled or unscaled ?

**RyoHazuki** · 03-28-2020, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

What reference are you using. Could you post it? Is it the LivingDNA G25 one?

I don't get English in my breakdowns for some reason even though I'm close distance wise.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6967% / 0.01696669
50.0 Irish
45.6 Icelandic
3.6 Swedish
0.8 North_Ossetian

Just used my own selection just for this purpose so it wouldn't be good for everyone.

Code:

English,0.1318551,0.137043,0.0617883,0.044013,0.0392299,0.0167481,0.0049845,0.0057448,0.0052637,0.0056781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0.0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05
English_Cornwall,0.1301962,0.1397525,0.0613546,0.0431826,0.0419013,0.0164115,0.0034346,0.0063902,0.0064819,0.0069669,-0.0046342,0.0064788,-0.0137455,-0.0102476,0.0207548,0.003172,-0.012527,0.0021146,0.0037613,0.0032419,0.0048088,0.0038712,-0.0007584,0.0143671,0.0006909
Irish,0.1334042,0.134875,0.0610876,0.0482532,0.0383388,0.0188992,0.003,0.0047738,0.0031318,0.002725,-0.00714,0.005606,-0.0143759,-0.0139278,0.0253478,0.0048208,-0.0110725,0.0022052,0.0007502,0.0013385,0.0051745,0.0012249,-0.0003563,0.0147667,0.0010665
Greenlander_East,0.0700643,-0.2359412,0.1051331,0.0495984,-0.0797413,-0.0245733,-0.091863,-0.1047136,0.0029314,-0.0125338,0.0149576,-0.0039798,0.0044763,-0.0187779,-0.0246407,-0.011211,-0.0030858,0.0127111,0.0310474,0.0162994,0.0237359,-0.0373844,0.0080932,0.0308077,0.0343018
Greenlander_West,0.0803086,-0.176815,0.0983029,0.0511417,-0.0626783,-0.0164546,-0.0725662,-0.0846119,0.0048404,-0.0102052,0.0149939,-0.0044959,0.0026099,-0.0120343,-0.0145072,-0.0102096,-0.0069827,0.0084882,0.0223184,0.0142428,0.0193824,-0.0296767,0.0071484,0.0268444,0.0274626
Icelandic,0.1326987,0.1336267,0.067819,0.0563097,0.0393663,0.0229619,0.0033488,0.0085188,0.0026418,6.07e-05,-0.0054806,0.0051702,-0.0063675,-0.0090831,0.0230725,0.0052924,-0.0116909,0.0019109,0.0017389,0.0038873,0.0092545,0.0028028,-0.0008422,0.0140179,0.0008282
Lithuanian_PA,0.1337421,0.1241485,0.0796195,0.074613,0.0421616,0.0291092,0.0087244,0.0134128,-0.0037324,-0.0263102,-0.0035118,-0.0091044,0.0186756,0.0266472,-0.0118755,0.0034972,0.0042865,0.0010292,0.0039282,0.0012351,-0.0060519,-0.0032921,0.0093979,-0.006552,-0.0002845
Lithuanian_PZ,0.1356773,0.1255195,0.0883971,0.0871131,0.044562,0.035447,0.0106459,0.0156685,-0.0030065,-0.0347524,-0.0067879,-0.0129784,0.0230573,0.0315155,-0.0071118,-0.0032219,-0.0034813,-0.0016344,0.000817,0.0034265,-0.0023459,-0.0059477,0.0084426,-0.0090132,0.0005148
Lithuanian_RA,0.135108,0.1240977,0.083306,0.0805239,0.0431158,0.0294229,0.0123146,0.015207,-0.0044994,-0.0323469,-0.0030203,-0.012469,0.0240532,0.0300018,-0.0152957,0.0017237,0.0070014,-0.0013936,0.00494,0.0030138,-0.0053282,-0.0060342,0.010057,-0.0066392,-0.0003714
Lithuanian_SZ,0.1347664,0.1258242,0.0861344,0.0877268,0.0448392,0.0315424,0.0128081,0.0185529,-0.0019633,-0.0353537,-0.0039137,-0.0127386,0.0235031,0.0296026,-0.0123914,0.0018563,0.005111,-0.0012796,0.0020866,0.0021511,-0.0029574,-0.0067636,0.0070251,-0.0104229,0.0029337
Lithuanian_VA,0.1344249,0.1257226,0.0824762,0.0750975,0.0433311,0.027889,0.0099878,0.014884,-0.0020454,-0.0298685,-0.0029553,-0.0138328,0.0200394,0.0280062,-0.0110613,0.0029435,0.0061411,-0.0005702,0.0023129,0.0061155,-0.003731,-0.00481,0.0072346,-0.0078805,-0.0008622
Lithuanian_VZ,0.1372991,0.1261795,0.0850879,0.082365,0.0444314,0.0326652,0.0104872,0.0176242,-0.0036048,-0.0315269,-0.0036131,-0.0097039,0.0199762,0.0301394,-0.0104505,-0.0045578,-0.0006029,0.0012828,0.0032525,0.0013445,-0.0043829,-0.0056728,0.00835,-0.005874,-0.001317
Swedish,0.1340007,0.1283722,0.0715329,0.0557909,0.0414202,0.0213225,0.006847,0.0089682,0.0046947,-0.0067261,-0.004451,0.001635,-0.0048315,-0.0036907,0.0150773,0.0039838,-0.0074379,0.002004,0.003851,0.0046385,0.0064205,0.0021357,0.0009244,0.0106969,-0.0002994
Tabasaran,0.1114592,0.1049901,-0.0241356,0.007106,-0.0390842,0.0101688,0.0074478,-0.0053075,-0.0561496,-0.0344145,-0.001449,0.0038848,-0.009743,-0.0096229,0.0149083,0.0011727,0.001675,-0.0020565,-0.0031908,0.0054737,-0.0018526,0.0002662,0.0048351,0.0093523,-0.0034174
Welsh,0.1319779,0.1381628,0.0601319,0.0430236,0.0405922,0.0166218,0.0033135,0.006392,0.0062789,0.0043372,-0.0042302,0.0059122,-0.0129112,-0.0109754,0.0205954,0.005708,-0.0087032,0.0023564,0.003086,0.0020072,0.0049849,0.0038518,-1.24e-05,0.0112243,0.0008083
North_Ossetian,0.103579,0.0873353,-0.0301697,-0.023902,-0.0405203,0.0052987,0.0123773,-0.0014617,-0.05379,-0.030555,-0.0025983,0.0074933,-0.0183347,-0.0023857,0.010903,-0.0201977,0.0035637,-0.006292,-0.0139527,0.016633,0.0067797,0.0016483,-0.001479,-0.0090373,-0.0029937
Norwegian,0.1338234,0.1279567,0.0679357,0.0534334,0.0386443,0.0210366,0.0041964,0.0062964,0.0057267,0.0003906,-0.0037349,0.0036823,-0.007518,-0.011698,0.0210754,0.0093949,-0.0054203,0.0026061,0.0006823,0.0007503,0.005633,0.0055643,0.0042784,0.0177304,0.0010947
Dutch,0.1267527,0.1313048,0.0610935,0.0461486,0.040469,0.0166244,0.0065435,0.0080802,0.003576,0.0003275,-0.0064447,0.0045873,-0.0087082,-0.0088422,0.0174443,0.005345,-0.0082143,0.0012669,0.0042698,0.0028138,0.0046909,0.0028672,0.0002678,0.0153541,-0.0004921
Scottish,0.1314657,0.1342312,0.0622654,0.0470426,0.039106,0.0172812,0.0035502,0.0051756,0.0035719,0.0028246,-0.005614,0.0050473,-0.0116806,-0.0119731,0.023024,0.0031254,-0.0112549,0.0027736,0.0025499,0.0014516,0.0042246,0.0033076,-0.0006559,0.0135561,-0.0007698

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.01875615 Irish
0.01914452 Icelandic
0.01963632 Scottish
0.02206228 English
0.02219810 Welsh
0.02336456 Norwegian
0.02454052 English_Cornwall
0.02458960 Dutch
0.02659290 Swedish
0.08382141 Lithuanian_PA
0.08664242 Lithuanian_VA
0.09099926 Lithuanian_VZ
0.09494843 Lithuanian_RA
0.09543377 Lithuanian_PZ
0.09755705 Lithuanian_SZ
0.15116471 Tabasaran
0.17548136 North_Ossetian
0.36569013 Greenlander_West
0.43681103 Greenlander_East

It was the Living DNA one yeah, but I get 90+% English + Orcadian so long as an England or Orcadian sample is used.