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    He has some Illyrian admixture for sure.

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    I don't know where you guys are seeing Slavic. It's probably Arbereshe (Italian Albanian), since Apulia was their main settlement.

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    To me normal Southern Italian, maybe a little less Southern than some others but still quite regular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    To me normal Southern Italian, maybe a little less Southern than some others but still quite regular.
    This is even more likely than assuming other ancestries. These results look normal for that area. The second population simply adds some Northern-like ancestry to compensate. The guy isn't East Sicilian afterall.

    1 84,77% East_Sicilian + 15,23% Greek_Thessaly @ 1,616
    2 93,36% East_Sicilian + 6,64% Bulgarian @ 1,695
    3 94,92% East_Sicilian + 5,08% Serbian @ 1,705
    4 94,14% East_Sicilian + 5,86% Romanian @ 1,710
    5 96,48% East_Sicilian + 3,52% Croatian @ 1,735
    6 96,48% East_Sicilian + 3,52% Austrian @ 1,745
    7 97,27% East_Sicilian + 2,73% South_Polish @ 1,748
    8 97,27% East_Sicilian + 2,73% Ukrainian @ 1,749
    9 96,48% East_Sicilian + 3,52% Hungarian @ 1,750
    10 97,27% East_Sicilian + 2,73% Polish @ 1,751

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    He has recent Greek ancestry for sure. Not very different to Mainland Greeks. His haplogroups must be either Roman or Ancient Greek. Salento is the area where Griko people live.
    I would like to see G25 results of this individual.
    Distance: 0.013732
    25% Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH067(Cretan/Aegean+some west Asian) + 25% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215 + 12.5% UKR_Cimmerian MJ12 (Dacian/Getae+some Cimmerian mix)+ 12.5% HUN_BA_o:SZ1(Pannonian-Scythian mix) + 12.5% Baltic_LVA_BA:Kivutkalns209 + 6.25% Baltic_EST_IA:0LS10_1 + 6.25% Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA:ASH34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    This is even more likely than assuming other ancestries. These results look normal for that area. The second population simply adds some Northern-like ancestry to compensate. The guy isn't East Sicilian afterall.

    1 84,77% East_Sicilian + 15,23% Greek_Thessaly @ 1,616
    2 93,36% East_Sicilian + 6,64% Bulgarian @ 1,695
    3 94,92% East_Sicilian + 5,08% Serbian @ 1,705
    4 94,14% East_Sicilian + 5,86% Romanian @ 1,710
    5 96,48% East_Sicilian + 3,52% Croatian @ 1,735
    6 96,48% East_Sicilian + 3,52% Austrian @ 1,745
    7 97,27% East_Sicilian + 2,73% South_Polish @ 1,748
    8 97,27% East_Sicilian + 2,73% Ukrainian @ 1,749
    9 96,48% East_Sicilian + 3,52% Hungarian @ 1,750
    10 97,27% East_Sicilian + 2,73% Polish @ 1,751
    Check my results. We are similar, I have just more Northern input

    80.3% South_Italian + 19.7% Polish @ 1.74
    81.3% South_Italian + 18.7% Belorussian @ 1.74
    74.5% South_Italian + 25.5% Croatian @ 1.74
    79% South_Italian + 21% South_Polish @ 1.81
    Distance: 0.013732
    25% Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH067(Cretan/Aegean+some west Asian) + 25% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215 + 12.5% UKR_Cimmerian MJ12 (Dacian/Getae+some Cimmerian mix)+ 12.5% HUN_BA_o:SZ1(Pannonian-Scythian mix) + 12.5% Baltic_LVA_BA:Kivutkalns209 + 6.25% Baltic_EST_IA:0LS10_1 + 6.25% Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA:ASH34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    I don't know where you guys are seeing Slavic. It's probably Arbereshe (Italian Albanian), since Apulia was their main settlement.
    Well if it's an Arbereshe admix isn't that a sign of indirectly Slavic admix?
    Any post medieval Slavic migrations Balkan population has Slavic dna.
    Also Arbereshe are an interesting population and not quite the same as the Albanians. Recent dna paper about Arbereshe showed that J2b2, the main haplogroup among the Albanians is quite low in Arbereshe. While I2a is found much more in Arbereshe than in modern Albanians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspar View Post
    Well if it's an Arbereshe admix isn't that a sign of indirectly Slavic admix?
    Any post medieval Slavic migrations Balkan population has Slavic dna.
    Also Arbereshe are an interesting population and not quite the same as the Albanians. Recent dna paper about Arbereshe showed that J2b2, the main haplogroup among the Albanians is quite low in Arbereshe. While I2a is found much more in Arbereshe than in modern Albanians.
    He seems shifted towards Mainland Greeks so his minor Slavic admixture must be from this recent Greek ancestry. Furthermore Arbereshe live in Northern Apulia. He is from Salento.
    Distance: 0.013732
    25% Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH067(Cretan/Aegean+some west Asian) + 25% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215 + 12.5% UKR_Cimmerian MJ12 (Dacian/Getae+some Cimmerian mix)+ 12.5% HUN_BA_o:SZ1(Pannonian-Scythian mix) + 12.5% Baltic_LVA_BA:Kivutkalns209 + 6.25% Baltic_EST_IA:0LS10_1 + 6.25% Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA:ASH34

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    He has some Balkan ancestry, this is normal for Apulia

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