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    Quote Originally Posted by Folcwalding View Post
    Our result, curios what causes the differences with someone like Creoda:


    I guess some Funnelbeaker effect....or?
    I'd guess it's a case of you having more direct Germanic influence, derived from Battle-Axe/Nordic Bronze Age, that had more Baltic-like/HG influence than the early Bell Beakers in the Netherlands and Britain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    I'd guess it's a case of you having more direct Germanic influence, derived from Battle-Axe/Nordic Bronze Age, that had more Baltic-like/HG influence than the early Bell Beakers in the Netherlands and Britain.
    Thanks creoda! Could be a factor, but I guess there is also a big regional factor, because look at this, G25 unscaled basic Davidski model:


    You see that in someone like Finn Mom the HG amount is higher than in the Anglo-Saxons and alls the Scandics.

    Specific for the North Dutch (not general Dutch) these are the important migration streams:
    3400 BC influx of the Funnelbeaker from the North German Plain (50% HF/50% EEF, compared to TRB Sweden and Poland it has a very high HG)
    2800 BC influx of the Single Grave Pastoralist (they transformed into BB). The SGC/BB heirs fused with the TRB heirs.
    450 AD influx of the Anglo-Saxon stream.

    My mother is deeply rooted in the absolute funnel beaker hotspot of the North Dutch (that specific region has nowadays of the 47 of the 53 megalithic tombs of the Netherlands).
    My father is more connected to the coastal area's, more Anglo-Saxon influx? (has a Danish/ Anglo-Saxon kind of of figures).
    Last edited by Folcwalding; 08-07-2020 at 06:52 PM.

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    Target: AK_scaled
    Distance: 2.6359% / 0.02635907
    50.4 Bronze_Age_Anatolian
    16.8 Proto-Balto-Slavic
    9.6 BMAC
    8.4 Neolithic_Farmer
    6.4 Proto-Indo-Iranian
    4.2 Proto-Italo-Celto-Germanic
    4.2 Siberian

    Target: AK_scaled
    Distance: 2.7982% / 0.02798187 | ADC: 0.25x
    66.6 Bronze_Age_Anatolian
    23.0 Proto-Indo-Iranian
    10.4 Proto-Balto-Slavic

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    Target: Rædwald

    Distance: 4.3211% / 0.04321079 | ADC: 1x
    96.2 Proto-Italo-Celto-Germanic
    3.8 Neolithic_Farmer

    Target: Rædwald

    Distance: 2.7235% / 0.02723526 | ADC: 0.5x
    86.4 Proto-Italo-Celto-Germanic
    13.6 Neolithic_Farmer

    Target: Rædwald

    Distance: 2.4227% / 0.02422720 | ADC: 0.25x
    81.8 Proto-Italo-Celto-Germanic
    17.2 Neolithic_Farmer
    1.0 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
    Anglo Saxon + Frank (4.336)
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    Gael + Frank (4.39)
    Anglo Saxon (4.393)
    Viking Danish + Anglo Saxon (4.568)

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    Target: Father
    Distance: 2.2954% / 0.02295424
    31.0 Proto-Balto-Slavic
    30.8 Neolithic_Farmer
    20.0 Bronze_Age_Anatolian
    13.8 Proto-Italo-Celto-Germanic
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    Target: Father
    Distance: 2.3784% / 0.02378380 | ADC: 0.25x
    29.0 Proto-Balto-Slavic
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    Distance: 1.7117% / 0.01711654 | R3P
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    Distance: 1.5134% / 0.01513427
    56.2 Proto-Italo-Celto-Germanic
    24.2 Proto-Balto-Slavic
    15.0 Neolithic_Farmer
    2.6 Bronze_Age_Anatolian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Folcwalding View Post
    Thanks creoda! Could be a factor, but I guess there is also a big regional factor, because look at this, G25 unscaled basic Davidski model:
    ...
    You see that in someone like Finn Mom the HG amount is higher than in the Anglo-Saxons and alls the Scandics.

    Specific for the North Dutch (not general Dutch) these are the important migration streams:
    3400 BC influx of the Funnelbeaker from the North German Plain (50% HF/50% EEF, compared to TRB Sweden and Poland it has a very high HG)
    2800 BC influx of the Single Grave Pastoralist (they transformed into BB). The SGC/BB heirs fused with the TRB heirs.
    450 AD influx of the Anglo-Saxon stream.
    My mother is deeply rooted in the absolute funnel beaker hotspot of the North Dutch (that specific region has nowadays of the 47 of the 53 megalithic tombs of the Netherlands).
    My father is more connected to the coastal area's, more Anglo-Saxon influx? (has a Danish/ Anglo-Saxon kind of of figures).
    You are looking too much into very few percents. In confidence intervals you, Creoda, your mom, Anglo-Saxons and at least half of Europe overlaps. Take G25 for what it is: a tool for statiscal inference, no more no less.

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    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.5875% / 0.02587477
    86.0 Proto-Italo-Celto-Germanic:Bell_Beaker_NLD
    11.2 Neolithic_Farmer
    2.8 Western_Hunter_Gatherer

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.6371% / 0.02637085 | ADC: 0.25x
    89.0 Proto-Italo-Celto-Germanic:Bell_Beaker_NLD
    9.6 Neolithic_Farmer
    1.4 Western_Hunter_Gatherer

    Distance to: Grace_scaled
    0.03724182 Proto-Italo-Celto-Germanic:Bell_Beaker_NLD
    0.07535986 Proto-Indo-Iranian:RUS_Krasnoyarsk_MLBA
    0.10232518 Proto-Balto-Slavic:Baltic_LTU_BA
    0.13154599 Proto-Balto-Slavic:Baltic_LVA_BA
    0.17756184 Proto-Indo-Iranian:KAZ_Zevakinskiy_LBA
    0.19789494 Bronze_Age_Anatolian:Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
    0.22471798 Neolithic_Farmer
    0.24579548 Bronze_Age_Levantine
    0.25891046 BMAC:TKM_Gonur1_BA
    0.26255391 Baltic_Hunter_Gatherer:Baltic_LTU_Narva
    0.32284938 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
    0.33108962 Iranian_Farmer:IRN_Ganj_Dareh
    0.34361502 Indus_Valley_Farmer:IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    0.48799020 Iberomaurusian
    0.51452085 Ancestral_South_Indian:S_AASI_Sim(Pulliyar)
    0.53701669 Ancestral_South_Indian:S_AASI_Sim(Irula)
    0.54773089 Siberian:RUS_Baikal_EBA
    0.78208677 West_African:Yoruba

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    Target: Lukasz_scaled
    Distance: 2.3579% / 0.02357915
    80.4 Proto-Balto-Slavic
    11.4 Neolithic_Farmer
    6.2 Bronze_Age_Anatolian
    1.8 Bronze_Age_Levantine
    0.2 BMAC

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