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    Quote Originally Posted by Defcon2 View Post
    Target: Juan_scaled
    Distance: 4.8027% / 0.04802733
    91.0 European
    4.2 Iberomaurusian
    1.8 KHG
    1.4 Indian
    1.2 SSA
    0.4 East_Asian

    Target: Juan_scaled
    Distance: 4.8027% / 0.04802733
    55.8 European:Anatolia_Barcin_N
    25.6 European:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    9.6 European:WHG
    4.2 Iberomaurusian:MAR_Taforalt
    1.8 KHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
    1.4 Indian:Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3
    1.2 SSA:TZA_Pemba_600BP
    0.4 East_Asian:Han
    Quita el KHG o ponlo como europeo. Cuando se mete en componente estepario, no se mete ni CHG ni EHG porque ya van incluidos en el paquete de Yamnaya, no entiendo porque hacen eso.

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    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 3.7422% / 0.03742166

    97.8 European
    2.2 Iberomaurusian

    Near this result, but changing 2.2 Iberomaurusian by North Caucasus:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico View Post
    Quita el KHG o ponlo como europeo. Cuando se mete en componente estepario, no se mete ni CHG ni EHG porque ya van incluidos en el paquete de Yamnaya, no entiendo porque hacen eso.
    Because most Europeans received all the EHG and CHG from Yamnaya people, so the extras must have arrived through other sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    Because most Europeans received all the EHG and CHG from Yamnaya people, so the extras must have arrived through other sources.
    But CHG or EHG could absorb some of the yamnya component because of calculator effects, if someone has other CHG related ancestry, should use a component equal in times of the yamaya or ANF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtíbero Itálico View Post
    But CHG or EHG could absorb some of the yamnya component because of calculator effects, if someone has other CHG related ancestry, should use a component equal in times of the yamaya or ANF.
    I'm personally ambivalent on this, because Yamnaya are 50/50 EHG and CHG, and Anatolian Farmers are also mixed with CHG. Therefore, both components are pretty much at home in Europe.
    But some people like to stress the differences, because of their own personal reasons.

    David Reich puts it best in his book "Who We Are and How We Got Here: Ancient DNA and the new science of the human past":

    "About ten thousand years ago there were at least four major populations in West Eurasia—the farmers of the Fertile Crescent, the farmers of Iran, the hunter-gatherers of central and western Europe, and the hunter-gatherers of eastern Europe. All these populations differed from one another as much as Europeans differ from East Asians today. Scholars interested in trying to create ancestry-based racial classifications, had they lived ten thousand years ago, would have categorized these groups as “(races,)” even though none of these groups survives in unmixed form today."

    "Ten thousand years ago, West Eurasia was home to four populations as differentiated from one another as Europeans and East Asians are today. The farmers of Europe and western Anatolia from nine thousand to five thousand years ago were a mixture of western European hunter-gatherers (A), Levantine farmers (C) and Iranian farmers (D). Meanwhile, the pastoralists of the steppe north of the Black and Caspian seas around five thousand years ago were a mixture of eastern European huntergatherers (B) and Iranian farmers (D). In the Bronze Age, these mixed populations mixed further to form populations with ancestry similar to people today."

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    Distance to: CDG_scaled
    0.15183177 European:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    0.17457372 Anatolian_Near_East:Anatolia_Barcin_C
    0.20478550 Armenoid:Kura-Araxes_ARM_Talin
    0.21790130 European:Anatolia_Barcin_N
    0.24790376 KHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
    0.27261964 European:Baltic_LVA_HG
    0.27700425 CHG:GEO_CHG
    0.30766764 Natufian:Levant_Natufian
    0.31951832 Siberian:West_Siberia_N
    0.33215023 Iranic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    0.33306373 European:WHG
    0.38137302 Indian:Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3
    0.48349269 Iberomaurusian:MAR_Taforalt
    0.48946254 Mongol:Mongolian
    0.59662003 Amerindian:USA_WA_Kennewick
    0.61751779 East_Asian:Han
    0.61816062 Siberian:Nganassan
    0.75178874 SSA:Gambian
    0.75935779 SSA:TZA_Pemba_600BP
    0.77737849 SSA:Yoruba
    0.81367517 Papuan

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 11.8763% / 0.11876291 | ADC: 2x
    78.6 European:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    21.4 Anatolian_Near_East:Anatolia_Barcin_C

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 8.0650% / 0.08064986 | ADC: 1x
    70.4 European:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    29.2 European:Anatolia_Barcin_N
    0.4 Anatolian_Near_East:Anatolia_Barcin_C

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 5.7281% / 0.05728128 | ADC: 0.5x
    53.2 European:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    36.0 European:Anatolia_Barcin_N
    10.8 European:Baltic_LVA_HG

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 5.3544% / 0.05354416 | ADC: 0.25x
    46.6 European:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    37.8 European:Anatolia_Barcin_N
    15.6 European:Baltic_LVA_HG

    Target: CDG_scaled
    Distance: 5.3260% / 0.05326037
    44.4 European:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    38.4 European:Anatolia_Barcin_N
    17.2 European:Baltic_LVA_HG

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    39.6 European:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    35.2 European:Anatolia_Barcin_N
    23.4 European:Baltic_LVA_HG
    1.8 KHG:RUS_Karelia_HG


    For comparison what I got from Davidski in mail with coordinates:


    Yamnaya_Samara,50.2
    Barcin_N,33
    WHG,16.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    Target: gixajo_scaled
    Distance: 3.7422% / 0.03742166

    97.8 European
    2.2 Iberomaurusian

    Near this result, but changing 2.2 Iberomaurusian by North Caucasus:
    Check with option "Aggregate - No" to have European breakdown.

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    Target: Andrei_scaled
    Distance: 5.3700% / 0.05369986
    97.0 European
    2.6 KHG
    0.4 East_Asian

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    Target: yo_scaled
    Distance: 5.2504% / 0.05250370
    39.2 European:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    38.4 European:Anatolia_Barcin_N
    14.8 European:Baltic_LVA_HG
    5.8 KHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
    1.8 East_Asian:Han

    Why is Karelia HG not considered european lol?

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