"The supposed blondness and paleness of Europeans is highly overrated". Discuss.

[Septentrion]

the majority of Euros have a peach like skin color, pinkish-pale tones are really common only in Ireland and to a minor extent in Britain. that's why Benjamin Franklin said only British Islanders were truly hu-whites. he also mentioned Saxons because he thought they were related to English but they are more related to Polish and Czechs.

British Islanders are as a whole paler in complexion than Continental Europeans, due to a higher frequency of ginger genes which favors even lighter complexion and often freckled too. Thus Ben Franklin based “whiteness” on his narrow - minded view as many people of his epoch did. He did view Continental Saxons as direct relatives of the English. The weird thing, is that Lower Saxony and NW Germany does indeed have a much higher frequency skin type I/II than the rest of Germany and the Netherlands. So who knows? Ben might have been right in that aspect. You are mistaken the Saxons that Ben is referring are Lower Saxons, the “original homeland” of Saxons before they were dispersed by Charlemagne to other parts of Germany and Continental Europe such as Saxony etc...

[Tooting Carmen]

the majority of Euros have a peach like skin color, pinkish-pale tones are really common only in Ireland and to a minor extent in Britain. that's why Benjamin Franklin said only British Islanders were truly hu-whites. he also mentioned Saxons because he thought they were related to English but they are more related to Polish and Czechs.

Franklin had very extreme and retarded ideas about race even for his time and society. And could you demonstrate what you mean by a 'peach' skin colour please?

[Septentrion]

Which skin complexion do you prefer?
This blonde woman from Belgium
http://beauty-around.com/images/samp...-coorevits.jpg
Or this brunette from Ireland?
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qim...18c6e813f2d78f

[Tooting Carmen]

Which skin complexion do you prefer?
This blonde woman from Belgium
http://beauty-around.com/images/samp...-coorevits.jpg
Or this brunette from Ireland?
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qim...18c6e813f2d78f

Both are nice.

[Roy]

Franklin had very extreme and retarded ideas about race even for his time and society. And could you demonstrate what you mean by a 'peach' skin colour please?

I think he meant standard European complexion, that after sun exposure turns peachy.

[caviezel]

Franklin had very extreme and retarded ideas about race even for his time and society. And could you demonstrate what you mean by a 'peach' skin colour please?

[Tooting Carmen]

Well yeah, not everyone has the porcelain white skintones of Enya and Tilda Swinton. Still, even the ladies you posted are lighter-skinned than what I'd call olive and sallow-skinned Europeans.

[Creoda]

the majority of Euros have a peach like skin color, pinkish-pale tones are really common only in Ireland and to a minor extent in Britain. that's why Benjamin Franklin said only British Islanders were truly hu-whites. he also mentioned Saxons because he thought they were related to English but they are more related to Polish and Czechs.

Franklin was obviously referring to Lower Saxons, who are fairly closely related to the English and much more so than to Poles/Czechs. Not that it really matters what he said, I can't believe how often he's brought up.

British/Irish default skintones are overall not different enough from other NW Euro's to separate them, from Southern Euro's though definitely.

[Septentrion]

There is higher frequency of type I and II in Ireland and The United Kingdom than in other NW European countries.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8d/49...a8bd64a66d.png

[Septentrion]

Well yeah, not everyone has the porcelain white skintones of Enya and Tilda Swinton. Still, even the ladies you posted are lighter-skinned than what I'd call olive and sallow-skinned Europeans.

Not just Enya and Swindon also;
Lily Cole
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/63/74...f5574173ba.jpg