View Poll Results: Which ethnicity is the most Slavic?

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  • Russians

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  • Poles

    9 14.52%
  • Ukrainians

    9 14.52%
  • Belarusians

    21 33.87%
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    1 1.61%
  • Czechs

    1 1.61%
  • Slovaks

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    0 0%
  • North Macedonians

    2 3.23%
  • Montenegrins

    0 0%
  • Bulgarians

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  • Lithuanians

    1 1.61%
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  • Latvians

    0 0%
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    Davidski says I am Northern Russian among other things. Here are some things in my IBD. You can see the Finno-Ugric contribution among other contributions. These are my matches from former Soviet areas. I am more than these.

    Ingrian_GS000016897 10.868328
    Ukrainian_West_UkrLv228 10.393318
    Ukrainian_North_Ukraine141 10.3141515
    Ukrainian_East_UkrBel614 10.036635
    Ukrainian_East_GS000035176 8.735819=Kharkov
    Ukrainian_East_GS000035121 8.6328089=Sumi
    Ukrainian_East_UkrBel618 4.696958
    Ukrainian_East_UkrBel620 4.319737
    Ukrainian_East_UkrBel622 3.643221
    Belarusian_belorus7 9.815257
    Vepsa_GS000016971 9.566861=Vepsskaya National Volost
    Latvian_GS000035027 9.539401
    Finnish_GS000018756 9.02088
    Russian_North_HGDP00880 8.931932
    Finnish_GS000016894 8.4297409
    Cossack_Kuban_GS000016186 8.407539
    Latvian_GS000035027 9.539401
    Ukrainian_West_UkrLv226 7.213755
    Belarusian_GS000016104 7.199316
    Ukrainian_North_Ukraine133 7.055681
    Russian_North_HGDP00888 8.385822-double hit
    Russian_North_HGDP00886 8.24023-double hit
    Karelian_GS000016970 8.025878
    Estonian_ee59 7.769276
    Russian_North_HGDP00885 7.767556
    Russian_North_HGDP00898 7.687647
    Russian_North_HGDP00899 7.589165
    Russian_Northwest_evo_2 7.139177
    Russian_North_GS000013756 7.08604982=Pinega
    Ukrainian_North_Ukraine133 7.055681
    Estonian_GS000017199 6.965786
    Khanty_GS000016906 6.939065
    Estonian_ee1 6.770008
    Russian_Central_GS000035242 6.671154=Kostroma
    Belarusian_belorus8 6.463371
    Finnish_HG00364 6.349876
    Saami_GS000035026 6.039583
    Russian_Central_GS000016797 5.954777=Rjazan
    Russian_North_HGDP00887 5.926507
    Estonian_GS000017206 5.749024
    Russian_West_GS000016819 5.6356-Pskov
    Saami_GS000035025 5.5719971
    Russian_North_HGDP00896 5.48723
    Russian_North_HGDP00893 5.384989
    Saami_GS000035026 6.039583
    Estonian_GS000017210 5.282319
    Karelian_GS000035149 5.1149
    Russian_North_HGDP00882 5.09359
    Russian_North_HGDP00892 4.865875
    Estonian_ee45 4.638389
    Russian_North_HGDP00890 4.59656
    Russian_North_HGDP00901 4.593058
    Russian_North_HGDP00903 4.528812
    Estonian_GS000017209 4.4405454
    Estonian_GS000017208 4.316687
    Russian_North_HGDP00889 4.272637
    Cossack_Kuban_GS000035179 4.218072
    Russian_North_HGDP00879 4.19332
    Russian_North_GS000014416 4.1205=Pinega
    Vepsa_GS000017632 3.970761
    Finnish_HG00349 3.854
    Estonian_ee149 3.831598
    Russian_North_HGDP00895 3.80835
    Mari_mari13 3.788493
    Estonian_GS000016919 3.565326
    Karelian_GS000013765 3.502808
    Mari_mari8 3.437241
    Estonian_ee114 3.350775
    Selkup_selkup2 3.342779
    Komi_GS000035018 3.2935947
    Khanty_GS000016164 3.140019=Lophari
    Estonian_ee108 3.05752
    Mari_mari15 2.939759
    Russian_North_HGDP00897 2.863928
    Mari_mari3 2.85726
    Estonian_ee105 2.82591
    Selkup_selkup7 2.73491
    Russian_North_HGDP00891 2.661641
    Mari_mari4 2.646036
    Estonian_ee144 2.33167
    Estonian_ee136 2.24761
    Selkup_selkup8 2.24748
    Estonian_ee86 2.212423
    Vepsa_GS000035244 2.092682=Drugaya Reka
    Russian_West_GS000016796 2.008339
    Russian_North_HGDP00902 1.665334
    Komi_GS000014328 1.65376
    Ingrian_GS000016896 1.648445
    Russian_North_HGDP00881 1.62054
    Mari_mari1 1.51575
    Russian_Northwest_evo_1 1.35444
    Mari_mari2 1.19895
    Selkup_Selkup83 1.153149
    Mari_mari5 0.983
    Russian_North_HGDP00884 0.861896
    Russian_North_HGDP00894 0.654391
    Belarusian_belorus8 6.463371
    AAB_Andronovo_RISE500 6.429001
    Belarusian_belorus4 6.1080659
    Ukrainian_North_GS000013755 5.837107
    Chuvash_Chuvash5 5.574531
    Chuvash_Chuvash6 5.574046
    AAB_Sintashta_RISE395 16.164902
    Chuvash_Chuvash8 5.551202
    Ukrainian_East_UkrBel736 5.344878
    Ukrainian_West_GS000035177 5.041802
    Latvian_latvian58C8 5.017757
    Latvian_latvian22J5 4.996687
    Belarusian_belorus5 4.89272
    Latvian_latvian58C6 4.884538
    Georgian_mg47 4.8580998
    Ukrainian_West_UkrLv240 4.782318
    Belarusian_GS000014324 4.70266
    Ukrainian_East_UkrBel618 4.696958
    Estonian_ee45 4.638389
    Chuvash_Chuvash4 4.388861
    Cossack_Ukrainian_GS000035239 4.3521907
    Ukrainian_East_UkrBel620 4.319737
    Ukrainian_North_Ukraine97 4.290427
    AAB_Yamnaya_Kalmykia_RISE548 4.15047
    Lithuanian_lithuania8 4.114874
    Lithuanian_lithuania6 4.093066
    Chechen_ch60 4.02313
    Lithuanian_lithuania4 3.703618
    Ukrainian_East_UkrBel622 3.643221
    Tabasaran_GS000014363 3.51859
    Chuvash_GS000013764 3.5176
    Karelian_GS000013765 3.502808
    Chechen_ch86 3.49672
    Latvian_latvian54F2 3.418945
    Kumyk_kumyks5 3.38733
    Estonian_ee114 3.350775
    Ukrainian_West_GS000035178 3.18225
    Adygei_HGDP01386 3.136749
    Chuvash_Chuvash2 3.097902
    Armenian_Martuni_594725 3.155281
    Chuvash_Chuvash2 3.097902
    Shor_shor117 2.906577
    Kumyk_kumyks11 2.906442
    Ukrainian_North_Ukraine94 2.85274
    Estonian_ee105 2.82591
    North_Ossetian_GS000013739 2.82341
    Ukrainian_North_Ukraine136 2.80491
    Lezgin_lez49 2.78049
    Tatar_Mishar_GS000013763 2.580351
    Armenian_arm12 2.550646
    Abkhasian_abh85 2.514614
    Lithuanian_lithuania10 2.50128
    Ukrainian_West_UkrLv223 2.162109
    Lithuanian_lithuania9 2.15195
    Buryat_GS000022090 2.133607
    Yakut_HGDP00959 2.11966
    Vepsa_GS000035244 2.092682
    Abkhasian_abh135 2.091269
    Lezgin_lez40 2.018912
    Russian_West_GS000016796 2.008339
    Chechen_ch174 1.878551
    Adygei_HGDP01402 1.826538
    Kumyk_kumyks108 1.82149
    Nogai_nogay6 1.785302
    Nogai_nogay14 1.784359
    Chuvash_Chuvash9 1.78148
    Kumyk_kumyks6 1.773505
    Ukrainian_North_UkrainePol19 1.742355
    Adygei_HGDP01399 1.721418
    Estonian_ee72 1.695739
    Nenets_Forest_GS000013714 1.67674
    Russian_North_HGDP00902 1.665334
    Latvian_latvian54H7 1.662955
    Lithuanian_lithuania3 1.662955
    Russian_North_HGDP00881 1.62054
    Nganassan_Nganassan7 1.61864
    Nogai_nogay9 1.54444
    Buryat_buryat20 1.54241
    Yakut_HGDP00963 1.47869
    Yukaghir_Yukagir5 1.488536
    Belarusian_GS000035241 2.499805
    Kumyk_kumyks10 2.493149
    Lezgin_lez3 2.333695
    Estonian_ee144 2.33167
    Ukrainian_West_UkrLv215 2.27351
    Nogai_nogay8 2.232668
    Chuvash_Chuvash13 2.22645
    Estonian_ee86 2.212423
    Armenian_Chambarak_591457 2.2117621
    Yakut_HGDP00963 1.47869
    Chechen_ch179 1.457704
    Lezgin_lez24 1.43048
    Chechen_ch11 1.42635
    Balkar_bal102 1.420512
    Balkar_bal42 1.41981
    Balkar_bal115 1.398381
    Buryat_GS000022066 1.2405
    Belarusian_belorus1 1.28621
    Lezgin_lez15 1.127231
    Abkhasian_abh45 1.13662
    Georgian_mg54 1.12368
    Nogai_nogay15 1.10405
    Chechen_ch150 1.07163
    Belarusian_belorus3 1.02479
    Yakut_HGDP00948 0.929488
    Tatar_GS000013705 0.895649
    Russian_North_HGDP00884 0.861896
    Chechen_ch109 0.80601
    Ukrainian_East_GS000035174 0.790485
    Lezgin_GS000014365 0.705047
    Kumyk_kumyks7 0.58271
    Russian_North_HGDP00894 0.654391
    Mordovian_GS000013698 7.684275=Batushevo
    Mordovian_GS000014330 5.458355=Chamzinsky
    Mordovian_mordovia10 5.03335
    Mordovian_mordovia13 4.92146066
    Mordovian_mordovia6 4.69843
    Mordovian_mordovia3 4.507585
    Mordovian_mordovia9 3.835561
    Mordovian_GS000015874 3.590176
    Mordovian_mordovia1 3.421987
    Mordovian_mordovia5 3.16456
    Mordovian_mordovia7 2.641374
    Mordovian_mordovia14 2.586472
    Mordovian_mordovia11 2.442208
    Mordovian_mordovia8 1.12506
    Mordovian_mordovia15 0.946544
    Tatar_Kryashen_GS000015875 3.645369
    Kazakh_Kazakh73cp 3.634566
    Kazakh_Kazakh54cp 2.57031
    Kazakh_KZ3 2.02042
    Kazakh_Kazakh36cp 1.478843
    Ashkenazi_Jew_ashkenazy10e 3.4066396
    Sephardic_Jew_sephardic9tur 3.38166
    Altaian_GS000016173 3.91287144
    Altaian_altai377 2.901363
    Altaian_GS000020512 2.14498
    Altaian_altai7 1.75691
    Altaian_altai14 1.732166
    AAC_Altai_IA_RISE601 1.66021
    AAC_Altai_IA_RISE602 1.651293
    Altaian_altai4 1.432505
    Evenk_GS000020363 2.86599
    Evenk_GS000020109 2.61006
    Even_even1574 2.27311
    Evenk_evenk6 2.05747
    Evenk_evenk15 1.97477
    Balkar_bal80 1.86683
    Balkar_bal88 1.6001
    Balkar_bal50 1.554382
    Balkar_bal102 1.420512
    Balkar_bal42 1.41981
    Balkar_bal115 1.398381
    Balkar_bal7 0.759905
    Bashkir_GS000035032 5.57992
    Bashkir_GS000016134 2.559916
    Bashkir_GS000019181 2.3201
    Bashkir_GS000016276 0.81751
    Tabasaran_GS000014363 3.51859
    Tabasaran_GS000014421 1.3709
    Circassian_GS000013740 1.46794
    Circassian_GS000035113 1.18223
    Circassian_GS000035114 1.18135
    Dolgan_Dolgan3840 1.18967
    Tuvinian_tuva3 1.498209
    Kabardin_GS000014413 3.996117
    Kabardin_GS000014411 2.090693
    Kabardin_GS000035115 1.323584
    Balto - North Slavic 34.3%
    Northwest European 27.1%
    Italian Greek 14.4%
    Iberian 7.1%
    Basque 5%
    Balkan 4%
    North African 4%

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    You know who could be purest Slavs? Drevani tribe at the Elbe River in eastern parts of Lower Saxony:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drevani

    They lived in the most God-forsaken part of Germany, that's why they were not Germanized until 1800s:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendland

    The region was isolated by Hohe Geest mountains from the west, swamps from the south, Elbe river from the north and east. It had no roads.

    I wonder if a "German" with 100% ancestry from this region would plot with Belarusians e.g. in Global25?

    Wendland:



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    On Global 25 I get strong match with Smolensk because it has a touch of Germanic admixture. I have a German grandfather. These things can be tricky. My ancestry is in Northern Russia.
    Balto - North Slavic 34.3%
    Northwest European 27.1%
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    Paradoxically the purest Slavs might be the ones in the westernmost part of historical Slavic settlement area, here!:


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    I voted belarussians

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    I think a German with 100% rural ancestors 100% from Wendland back to the 1600s, would plot with Ukrainians or Belarusians.

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    1. Byelorussians
    2. Poles
    3. Ukrainians / Ruthenians
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
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    I voted belarussians
    Genetically Ukrainians are the most slavic though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    Genetically Ukrainians are the most slavic though.
    How do you know?

    Ukraine has more Balkan, Mongol, Tatar and Turkic influence compared to Belarus and Poland.

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    Whoever believes/thinks that the Wendlanders are no different genetically than a typical East Germans must be a fool.

    I would bet money that they are quite a bit more Slavic-shifted than typical East Germans. Despite living so far to the west.

    The same also applies to the island of Rgen where the % of Slavic toponyms is much higher than in mainland areas.


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