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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamal900 View Post
    The South Semitic branch is no longer a valid branch these days. Ethio-Semitic and Modern South Arabian languages are basal branches in the West Semitic branch since they don't belong to the Central Semitic language group like Arabic, North-Western Semitic languages(Aramaic, Amorite, and Canaanite languages), Old South Arabian languages, Hisaitic, Taymanitic and Dedanitic. And no, they had assimilated them by converging them with Arabic hence why Yemeni Arabic dialects have a Old South Arabia substrate and so on.
    Arabic is closer to Hisaitic than Dedanitic Right? Lihyans were the enemies of the Nabatians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamal900 View Post
    Yeah, but it's mostly in Palestinian Arab Muslims that have both Egyptian and Arabian admixtures(combined together they make up around 35% of the Palestinian Muslim genome). And yes, Arabs and their language originated in the original Arabia that consisted of NW Arabia and Southern Levant, namely Jordan and Southern Syria.
    Who do you think brought Steppe_MLBA into Late Bronze Age Levant? Most people on Anthrogenica believe it was the Mitanni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    Who do you think brought Steppe_MLBA into Late Bronze Age Levant? Most people on Anthrogenica believe it was the Mitanni.
    In my opinion, I think it had been a continuous movement of peoples from the steppes to the Levant and so on. I mean, horses were domesticated by the PIE peoples of the Eurasian steppes, and they were brought to the middle east after the Sumerian civilization at the end of the 3rd millennium BC. Back then, people used asses for transportation. It's very likely that they were Aryans or Indo-Iranic peoples that genetically contributed to the overall Levantine genepool. Egyptians, both modern and ancient, don't have such ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamal900 View Post
    In my opinion, I think it had been a continuous movement of peoples from the steppes to the Levant and so on. I mean, horses were domesticated by the PIE peoples of the Eurasian steppes, and they were brought to the middle east after the Sumerian civilization at the end of the 3rd millennium BC. Back then, people used asses for transportation. It's very likely that they were Aryans or Indo-Iranic peoples that genetically contributed to the overall Levantine genepool. Egyptians, both modern and ancient, don't have such ancestry.
    The problem is that it only appears after 1400BC and it is absent in earlier Bronze age samples. Interestingly the Canaanite chariot was much heavier than the Egyptian chariot and very similar to those used by the Mitanni. The weird thing is that it appears together with R1b-M269, which is not a typical Iranic haplogroup, but it was found in a Hurrian-speaking site, so maybe the same geneflow from the steppes that affected northern Mesopotamia and surrounds also affected Israelites. By the way, didn't the Hyksos have a horse chariot culture?

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    From the Crusader paper, on the dating of the steppe admixture:

    We analyzed admixture LD in the Lebanese in order to date the time when admixture occurred in their history. We found two signals; the first admixture can be detected with overlapping dates in both Lebanese Christians (850–150 BCE, Z = 6.95) and Lebanese Muslims (900 BCE–500 CE, Z = 3.02) and is consistent with finding this admixture in our ancient Roman period samples 240–400 calCE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token View Post
    The problem is that it only appears after 1400BC and it is absent in earlier Bronze age samples. Interestingly the Canaanite chariot was much heavier than the Egyptian chariot and very similar to those used by the Mitanni. The weird thing is that it appears together with R1b-M269, which is not a typical Iranic haplogroup, but it was found in a Hurrian-speaking site, so maybe the same geneflow from the steppes that affected northern Mesopotamia and surrounds also affected Israelites. By the way, didn't the Hyksos have a horse chariot culture?
    The Hyksos were an Amorite and Canaanite Semitic peoples who invaded Egypt during the bronze age period which is interesting since their names are both Canaanite and Amorite, though Canaanites had been living in Egypt before the Hyksos rule of Egypt, and some Egyptian pharaohs had been Semites like Khendjer which if you were a Semite know what it means. His name is an Egyptianized name for a Semitic name for boar or pig. It's Khanzeer in Arabic.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khendjer

    Pretty much all of the Egyptian Pharoahs of the 14th dynasty were Semites as well
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourte...nasty_of_Egypt

    The Mintannis were a people who were mostly Hurrian speakers but ruled by Indo-Aryan ruling elite.

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    Very weird look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffmannn View Post
    Very weird look.
    Why the hell did you bump this shit? We agreed that it should be closed. I'll have to message Loki.

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