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    From Reddit. His father is Italian (a mix of North and South) and his mother is 3/4 Polish, 1/4 Syrian


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    His genetic component completely different from Samnium. Samnium lacks the excess Natufian he has.

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    Would not look out of place in Syria. That little bit of Syrian hit his pheno hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    His genetic component completely different from Samnium. Samnium lacks the excess Natufian he has.
    Not completely, both are half Italian. The guy is 37.5% Polish and Poles are more Northern, less "Farmer" than Frenchmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daos777 View Post
    Would not look out of place in Syria. That little bit of Syrian hit his pheno hard.
    Yes, he does look somewhat Woggistani. Could fit in Turkey easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daos777 View Post
    Would not look out of place in Syria. That little bit of Syrian hit his pheno hard.
    Funny how 1/8 ancestry affected his look so much, that was literally my first thought when I opened thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Not completely, both are half Italian. The guy is 37.5% Polish and Poles are more Northern, less "Farmer" than Frenchmen.
    But the Farmer ancestry in Europeans is different compared to Syrians. Natufians is like Pınarbaşı +Taforalt, quite different from EEF (Barcin_N+WHG) in Frenchmen. Also Syrians have lots of West Asians compnents not present in Europeans, even S. Italians (although they do have bronze age non-steppe CHG admixture)

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    He doesn't look that much Syrian, I doubt he would be that atypical for any Southern European country.
    As for your question,
    genetics: yes
    phenotype: no.

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    Don't forget he is half Italian, so some of the swarthyness may be from his Italian side. I bet he is 25% Sicilian or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    But the Farmer ancestry in Europeans is different compared to Syrians. Natufians is like Pınarbaşı +Taforalt, quite different from EEF (Barcin_N+WHG) in Frenchmen. Also Syrians have lots of West Asians compnents not present in Europeans, even S. Italians (although they do have bronze age non-steppe CHG admixture)
    The OP's Syrian is minor, only 1/8 and I assume those were Christian Syrians, not Bedouin or black-admixed Muslims. 1/8 Syrian is like 1/4 Ashkenazi, more or less.

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