West Asian?

[Pater Patota]

We are genetically x2-3 times more European than Georgians

Oh, this generalization.

On most of the gedmatch calcs, I’m just a west asian, I don’t even score any euro on single population.

[Mejgusu]

Oh, this generalization.

On most of the gedmatch calcs, I’m just a west asian, I don’t even score any euro on single population.

I guess you don't have Turkic ancestry, can I ask you from which provinces your parents are from? I see on you signature you are at least genetically a Kurdish-North Caucasian mix, both already have steppe admixture. But the guy which you quoted is not right, maybe on average Turks are more steppe but considering the huge amount of Balkan Turks that is normal, on the other hand northern Georgians are more steppe than an average Turk.

Another good topic to weigh in on
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...menians+Steppe

I once read that when Seljuks came to Anatolia, Eastern and especially SE-Anatolia was populated by huge numbers of Semitic speaking Christians like Assyrians and even big communities of Jews. It could be that at least the first groups was absorbed by Armenians which could be the reason why they are not much steppe autosomally but very southern comparing to their neighbors.

[princeton90]

Georgians.

[Pater Patota]

I guess you don't have Turkic ancestry, can I ask you from which provinces your parents are from? I see on you signature you are at least genetically a Kurdish-North Caucasian mix, both already have steppe admixture. But the guy which you quoted is not right, maybe on average Turks are more steppe but considering the huge amount of Balkan Turks that is normal, on the other hand northern Georgians are more steppe than an average Turk.



I once read that when Seljuks came to Anatolia, Eastern and especially SE-Anatolia was populated by huge numbers of Semitic speaking Christians like Assyrians and even big communities of Jews. It could be that at least the first groups was absorbed by Armenians which could be the reason why they are not much steppe autosomally but very southern comparing to their neighbors.

My paternal ancestry is from Tunceli(Kurdish), Erzincan(Zaza) and Malatya(Ethnic Turk or Kurdish).Maternal ancestry is half Circassian(Adyghe), half Albanian, both Circassian and Albanian ancestry immigrated to Anatolia in late Ottoman period(before 1900).I don’t know I have any Armenian or Georgian ancestry but i usually get Turkish, Armenian, Georgian, Georgian Jew, Uzbekistan Jew, Azeri, Kurd, Assyrian, Circassian and Kumyk on gedmatch calculators.

[Mejgusu]

My paternal ancestry is from Tunceli(Kurdish), Erzincan(Zaza) and Malatya(Ethnic Turk or Kurdish).Maternal ancestry is half Circassian(Adyghe), half Albanian, both Circassian and Albanian ancestry immigrated to Anatolia in late Ottoman period(before 1900).I don’t know I have any Armenian or Georgian ancestry but i usually get Turkish, Armenian, Georgian, Georgian Jew, Uzbekistan Jew, Azeri, Kurd, Assyrian, Circassian and Kumyk on gedmatch calculators.

Tunceli is genetically a very interesting place, so it is difficult to say something about there but you probably inherited some steppe from the other parts and considering your maternal ancestry you are more steppe than most Turks and Georgians.

[Pater Patota]

Tunceli is genetically a very interesting place, so it is difficult to say something about there but you probably inherited some steppe from the other parts and considering your maternal ancestry you are more steppe than most Turks and Georgians.

It seems i’m very Turkish On mdlp k23b calculator, this calculator places me North East.

Distance to: PaterPatota
5.14601788 Turkey_Azeri
5.97750784 Turk
6.26388059 Turk_Kayseri
6.34100938 Turk_East
6.42501362 Azeri_Iran
6.56854626 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
6.83989766 Turk_Adana
7.21084600 Turk_Central
7.26978679 Turks_Anatolia
7.87642051 Azeri
7.90322719 Kurd_North
8.59213012 Turk_South
8.84072395 Uzbek_Tashkent
9.07968612 Georgian_Jew
9.28502558 Turk_Istanbul
9.87028368 Zaza
9.91335463 Turk_West
10.22231383 Turk_Northwest
10.36828337 Armenian_East
10.65360033 Kurd_South
10.76771564 Uzbekistani_Jew
10.82749278 Turk_Aydin
10.99741788 Kurd
11.00367211 Baku_WGA
11.30586573 Kurd_East

Target: PaterPatota
Distance: 2.0790% / 2.07903475 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.4 Turk_Kayseri
16.6 Azeri_Iran
16.0 Kurd_North
11.9 Lezgin
6.1 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR

Target: PaterPatota
Distance: 3.0613% / 3.06125501 | ADC: 0.5x RC
32.4 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
24.9 Turk
23.4 Turk_Kayseri
16.5 Stalskoe_Kumyk
2.8 Turkey_Azeri

On Gedmatch


# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.42
2 South_Central_Asian 20.34
3 European_Early_Farmers 10.11
4 Near_East 9.13
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 7.07
6 Ancestral_Altaic 3.63
7 Tungus-Altaic 3.18
8 North_African 1.69
9 East_Siberian 1.01
10 Austronesian 0.98
11 Archaic_African 0.67
12 Australoid 0.62
13 South_Indian 0.61
14 Paleo_Siberian 0.21
15 East_African 0.14
16 Archaic_Human 0.12
17 Subsaharian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turk_Adana ( ) 5.63
2 Turk ( ) 6.26
3 Turk_Kayseri ( ) 6.27
4 Azeri ( ) 6.79
5 Kurd_North ( ) 7.11
6 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 8.39
7 Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) 8.44
8 Georgian_Jew ( ) 9.67
9 Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) 9.68
10 Kurd ( ) 9.92
11 Turk_Aydin ( ) 9.94
12 Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) 10.29
13 Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) 10.48
14 Stalskoe_Kumyk ( ) 10.53
15 Kurd_East ( ) 10.64
16 Kurd_South ( ) 11.13
17 Baku_WGA ( ) 11.16
18 Iraqi_Mandean ( ) 11.82
19 Kurd_Jew ( ) 11.88
20 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 12.15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.9% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 16.1% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) @ 2.2
2 93.4% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 6.6% Kalash ( ) @ 2.38
3 92.8% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 7.2% Brahui ( ) @ 2.65
4 87.5% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 12.5% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) @ 2.65
5 88.2% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 11.8% Tajik_Pomiri_Shugnan ( ) @ 2.69
6 92% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 8% Makrani ( ) @ 2.75
7 92.3% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 7.7% Balochi ( ) @ 2.76
8 76.9% Azeri ( ) + 23.1% Central_Greek ( ) @ 2.8
9 78.7% Azeri ( ) + 21.3% Albanian_Tirana ( ) @ 2.86
10 89.2% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 10.8% Tajik_Pomiri_Ishkashim ( ) @ 2.86
11 76.7% Azeri ( ) + 23.3% Greek_Athens ( ) @ 2.96
12 78.7% Azeri ( ) + 21.3% Greek_Thessaly ( ) @ 2.99
13 89.2% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 10.8% Pashtun_Afghani ( ) @ 3
14 70.8% Azeri ( ) + 29.2% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) @ 3.01
15 74.7% Azeri ( ) + 25.3% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 3.06
16 75.9% Azeri ( ) + 24.1% Greek ( ) @ 3.07
17 77.7% Azeri ( ) + 22.3% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) @ 3.09
18 80.2% Azeri ( ) + 19.8% Kosovar ( ) @ 3.09
19 68.2% Turk_Adana ( ) + 31.8% Stalskoe_Kumyk ( ) @ 3.14
20 61% Kurd ( ) + 39% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) @ 3.15

I score 4.4% East Euroasian on k23b, I didn’t add ancestral Altaic because I’ve seen many people said it’s only steppe, not Mongoloid/East Euroasian.

[Mejgusu]

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Can you send your Dodecad 12kb? If you want you can send it to me privately.