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    How well do Anatolian Turks preserved their conqueror genes?

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    Turkic_Anatolia-avg,0.078696873,-0.083963831,0.024335737,0.006566527,-0.036170504,-0.002526961,0.009473932,0.007261605,-0.009136461,-0.012439212,-0.014328067,-0.001494711,0.001948896,-0.006808966,0.002674388,0.008160479,0.001206177,-6.72318E-05,-0.003722421,0.003261193,-0.012075227,0.000661755,-0.007766628,0.005433171,-0.000593954
    Turkic_Turkish-Azeri,0.0713486,-0.083947112,0.042142885,-0.00515416,-0.046928704,0.01060666,0.001849345,-0.000775227,0.008606483,-0.011680599,-0.044002778,-0.009734565,0.015561908,0.006300414,0.014766412,-0.061832379,-0.097301497,0.036925075,0.03254361,-0.005059592,-0.002482569,0.015239457,-0.019071121,-0.000725265,0.000880901																									
    Late_Anatolia-avg,0.079936686,-0.037654418,0.001888065,-0.001852593,-0.037983445,-0.003021675,0.007733236,0.003736728,-0.01413558,-0.013454881,-0.009549429,-0.002341749,0.002959256,-0.006527173,0.004846065,0.010117502,0.002682072,-0.00032707,-0.003517524,0.002294172,-0.008159596,-0.001806006,-0.005638497,0.003359133,-0.000312192

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    In search of the ancestors: Balkan Turks
    A closer look to Huns

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    Code:
    Distance to:	Northwest_Early
    0.04795382	Uzbek
    0.05564879	Bashkir
    0.05990330	Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    0.06528420	Turkmen
    0.07256727	Tatar_Siberian
    0.07386820	Nogai
    0.07969798	Hazara_Afghanistan
    0.08279534	Uygur
    0.08351740	Tatar_Lipka
    0.08883672	Hazara
    0.10076826	Karakalpak
    0.11795752	Yukagir_Forest
    0.11986909	Besermyan
    0.12138616	Udmurt
    0.12200457	Tatar_Kazan
    0.12556436	Tajik
    0.12828768	Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.13596929	Chuvash
    0.13698368	Kazakh
    0.13939607	Tubalar
    0.14555964	Saami
    0.14624952	Tlingit
    0.14829901	Burusho
    0.14889905	Mari
    0.14938149	Maori
    Code:
    Distance to:	North_Early
    0.04767785	Uzbek
    0.05823021	Bashkir
    0.06157718	Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    0.06743382	Turkmen
    0.07432520	Tatar_Siberian
    0.07558762	Nogai
    0.07699493	Hazara_Afghanistan
    0.08297846	Uygur
    0.08534604	Hazara
    0.08675345	Tatar_Lipka
    0.10124576	Karakalpak
    0.12209987	Besermyan
    0.12325417	Yukagir_Forest
    0.12420348	Udmurt
    0.12630162	Tatar_Kazan
    0.12634097	Tajik
    0.12781203	Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.13680872	Kazakh
    0.13757661	Chuvash
    0.13800101	Tubalar
    0.14610508	Burusho
    0.14929452	Mari
    0.15220085	Saami
    0.15323984	Tajik_Ishkashim
    0.15368764	Tlingit
    Code:
    Distance to:	South_Early
    0.04901144	Uzbek
    0.05899238	Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    0.06455821	Bashkir
    0.06645402	Turkmen
    0.07375210	Nogai
    0.07675802	Tatar_Siberian
    0.07811485	Hazara_Afghanistan
    0.08117398	Uygur
    0.08585158	Hazara
    0.09602430	Tatar_Lipka
    0.09884111	Karakalpak
    0.12390187	Yukagir_Forest
    0.12914494	Tajik
    0.12914782	Besermyan
    0.12999293	Udmurt
    0.13104277	Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.13173641	Tatar_Kazan
    0.13502533	Kazakh
    0.13961247	Tubalar
    0.14236235	Chuvash
    0.15146606	Burusho
    0.15184685	Mari
    0.15495062	Maori
    0.15653711	Turkish_South
    0.15674481	Saami
    Code:
    Distance to:	Southwest_Early
    0.04788151	Uzbek
    0.05952096	Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    0.06434003	Bashkir
    0.06702313	Turkmen
    0.07397234	Nogai
    0.07577272	Hazara_Afghanistan
    0.07758419	Tatar_Siberian
    0.07984119	Uygur
    0.08558502	Hazara
    0.09376074	Tatar_Lipka
    0.09895033	Karakalpak
    0.12177065	Yukagir_Forest
    0.12868563	Besermyan
    0.12875963	Tajik
    0.12982350	Udmurt
    0.12984009	Tatar_Kazan
    0.13246005	Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.13489219	Kazakh
    0.14091173	Tubalar
    0.14250012	Chuvash
    0.14731747	Maori
    0.14753973	Burusho
    0.15349629	Mari
    0.15473728	Tlingit
    0.15491039	Saami
    Code:
    Distance to:	Central_Early
    0.04771789	Uzbek
    0.05964517	Bashkir
    0.06012871	Turkmen_Uzbekistan
    0.06651664	Turkmen
    0.07335777	Nogai
    0.07423779	Tatar_Siberian
    0.07879238	Hazara_Afghanistan
    0.08175236	Uygur
    0.08546850	Hazara
    0.08689242	Tatar_Lipka
    0.09958576	Karakalpak
    0.12238643	Yukagir_Forest
    0.12320528	Besermyan
    0.12559986	Udmurt
    0.12621852	Tatar_Kazan
    0.12859885	Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.12876177	Tajik
    0.13631925	Kazakh
    0.13728819	Chuvash
    0.13937476	Tubalar
    0.14393755	Maori
    0.14753407	Mari
    0.15033872	Saami
    0.15111420	Tlingit
    0.15192851	Burusho

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    Azerbaijanis should be more closer to Central Turkey on average in terms of turkic input(but Im not aware of the g25 samples.)

    Also for Northwest there should be a different component added I think. They seem to have some additional European admixture (possible Balkan related)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    Also for Northwest there should be a different component added I think. They seem to have some additional European admixture (possible Balkan related)
    Greek is not only Central Anatolian Greek. It includes 8 component: Izmir, Eastern Thrace, Kos, Crete, Central Anatolia, Lebanese Christian, Roopkund_B_o, Trabzon

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    Can you post the coordinates of Turki admixture for each group?
    Distance: 0.013732
    25% Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH067(Cretan/Aegean+some west Asian) + 25% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215 + 12.5% UKR_Cimmerian MJ12 (Dacian/Getae+some Cimmerian mix)+ 12.5% HUN_BA_o:SZ1(Pannonian-Scythian mix) + 12.5% Baltic_LVA_BA:Kivutkalns209 + 6.25% Baltic_EST_IA:0LS10_1 + 6.25% Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA:ASH34

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    Quote Originally Posted by xripkan View Post
    Can you post the coordinates of Turki admixture for each group?
    Here:

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    Central_Early,0.070822031,-0.088446993,0.028685158,0.003703005,-0.030120882,-0.003076787,0.002870446,0.008137955,-0.005371865,-0.017757553,-0.017723696,0.001679532,0.005210263,-0.009794915,0.000173024,0.00100399,-0.014949924,0.000609601,-0.003337864,0.005575975,-0.007087103,0.004938906,-0.007267827,0.002969592,-0.002144738																									
    Southwest_Early,0.075930815,-0.09094277,0.023933029,0.008200425,-0.03432273,-0.003518106,0.010051643,0.008701265,-0.008033468,-0.009273558,-0.011264534,-0.004472999,-0.000908852,-0.00848124,0.001146409,0.016064651,0.01635149,-0.001589896,-0.005537242,0.006528117,-0.012860531,-0.010793634,-0.009958868,0.004563452,-0.005008994																									
    South_Early,0.076345948,-0.090422208,0.027346761,0.000666058,-0.038640756,-0.003364171,0.014553254,0.007227755,-0.011235434,-0.010262502,-0.012433288,-0.005161571,0.000917986,-0.013852334,0.008709452,0.012038542,0.008347261,0.000800011,-0.005448082,0.005721918,-0.010548228,0.003482083,-0.0134083,0.014261516,0.008887749
    North_Early,0.087538292,-0.090750425,0.02674054,0.012399746,-0.041219367,0.002956387,0.012777631,0.008633758,-0.008424058,-0.010307937,-0.018565217,0.002991349,0.000729011,-0.000112001,-0.004417733,0.003594176,-0.010781532,0.002294381,0.001251412,-0.006787498,-0.019028271,0.006833469,-0.005785018,0.003338679,-0.008668971																										
    Northwest_Early,0.081735464,-0.088092257,0.029601018,0.01382979,-0.034653235,-0.006701417,0.007584718,0.005281658,-0.009742194,-0.014485009,-0.014041675,-0.002782088,0.003534562,-0.001782184,0.008260651,0.00739094,0.009264867,-0.00312986,-0.006806194,0.007816671,-0.012698902,-0.000654887,-0.00313507,0.003188025,0.003932885
    Azeri_Early,0.0713486,-0.083947112,0.042142885,-0.00515416,-0.046928704,0.01060666,0.001849345,-0.000775227,0.008606483,-0.011680599,-0.044002778,-0.009734565,0.015561908,0.006300414,0.014766412,-0.061832379,-0.097301497,0.036925075,0.03254361,-0.005059592,-0.002482569,0.015239457,-0.019071121,-0.000725265,0.000880901

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    Quite similar to Turkic admixture of Balkan Turks.
    Distance: 0.013732
    25% Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_IA1:ASH067(Cretan/Aegean+some west Asian) + 25% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215 + 12.5% UKR_Cimmerian MJ12 (Dacian/Getae+some Cimmerian mix)+ 12.5% HUN_BA_o:SZ1(Pannonian-Scythian mix) + 12.5% Baltic_LVA_BA:Kivutkalns209 + 6.25% Baltic_EST_IA:0LS10_1 + 6.25% Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA:ASH34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Here:

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    Central_Early,0.070822031,-0.088446993,0.028685158,0.003703005,-0.030120882,-0.003076787,0.002870446,0.008137955,-0.005371865,-0.017757553,-0.017723696,0.001679532,0.005210263,-0.009794915,0.000173024,0.00100399,-0.014949924,0.000609601,-0.003337864,0.005575975,-0.007087103,0.004938906,-0.007267827,0.002969592,-0.002144738																									
    Southwest_Early,0.075930815,-0.09094277,0.023933029,0.008200425,-0.03432273,-0.003518106,0.010051643,0.008701265,-0.008033468,-0.009273558,-0.011264534,-0.004472999,-0.000908852,-0.00848124,0.001146409,0.016064651,0.01635149,-0.001589896,-0.005537242,0.006528117,-0.012860531,-0.010793634,-0.009958868,0.004563452,-0.005008994																									
    South_Early,0.076345948,-0.090422208,0.027346761,0.000666058,-0.038640756,-0.003364171,0.014553254,0.007227755,-0.011235434,-0.010262502,-0.012433288,-0.005161571,0.000917986,-0.013852334,0.008709452,0.012038542,0.008347261,0.000800011,-0.005448082,0.005721918,-0.010548228,0.003482083,-0.0134083,0.014261516,0.008887749
    North_Early,0.087538292,-0.090750425,0.02674054,0.012399746,-0.041219367,0.002956387,0.012777631,0.008633758,-0.008424058,-0.010307937,-0.018565217,0.002991349,0.000729011,-0.000112001,-0.004417733,0.003594176,-0.010781532,0.002294381,0.001251412,-0.006787498,-0.019028271,0.006833469,-0.005785018,0.003338679,-0.008668971																										
    Northwest_Early,0.081735464,-0.088092257,0.029601018,0.01382979,-0.034653235,-0.006701417,0.007584718,0.005281658,-0.009742194,-0.014485009,-0.014041675,-0.002782088,0.003534562,-0.001782184,0.008260651,0.00739094,0.009264867,-0.00312986,-0.006806194,0.007816671,-0.012698902,-0.000654887,-0.00313507,0.003188025,0.003932885
    Azeri_Early,0.0713486,-0.083947112,0.042142885,-0.00515416,-0.046928704,0.01060666,0.001849345,-0.000775227,0.008606483,-0.011680599,-0.044002778,-0.009734565,0.015561908,0.006300414,0.014766412,-0.061832379,-0.097301497,0.036925075,0.03254361,-0.005059592,-0.002482569,0.015239457,-0.019071121,-0.000725265,0.000880901
    It seems early Turkic populations should be similar to Uzbeks, at least all of Anatolian samples and also Varna and Kardzhali are closer to Uzbeks -but distances are higher.

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    I find interesting that Central Turkey is the least Turkic despite being the first to be removed from Byzantine control in a permanent fashion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SharpFork View Post
    I find interesting that Central Turkey is the least Turkic despite being the first to be removed from Byzantine control in a permanent fashion.
    Possibly a result of combination of Kurdish/Armenian/Greek influences. There's Kurdish tribes in central anatolia till today but Greeks/Armenians don't exist there anymore.

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