What happened to the germanic people in Spain?

[gixajo]

Tell that to all those latin mongrels who larp as Iberians on this forum lel.



And they were not genetically Celtic, there's no need for Celticness in Iberia (its alien) and no real desire for it outside of the Galician, Asturian, Northern Portuguese and Cantabrian folk music scene and maybe a few fringist types.



Estimated? Truth is their population didn’t increase at the expense of others actually.

Only among ethnic Catalans does Germanic admixture surpass 5%. Most of Spain and Portugal its under 1%.

You have not idea about anything, please stop saying stupidities.

[Samnium]

My girlfriend K13 just to show an example. She is native Portuguese. Does it look at first glance that she would share only 1% of her genomes with Germans?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 26.28
2 Atlantic 25.93
3 West_Med 21.62
4 East_Med 11.54
5 Baltic 4.05
6 Red_Sea 2.59
7 Sub-Saharan 2.58
8 Eastern_Euro 2.36
9 Amerindian 1.19


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Galicia @ 6.350326
2 Portuguese @ 6.546985
3 Spanish_Cataluna @ 8.007100
4 Spanish_Extremadura @ 8.263930
5 Spanish_Murcia @ 8.368540
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 8.840790
7 Spanish_Cantabria @ 11.128245
8 French @ 11.197918
9 Spanish_Valencia @ 11.957701
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 12.208786
11 Spanish_Andalucia @ 13.017864
12 Spanish_Aragon @ 13.114104
13 North_Italian @ 13.176331
14 Southwest_French @ 14.104487
15 South_Dutch @ 16.860746
16 West_German @ 17.891609
17 Southwest_English @ 19.506603
18 Tuscan @ 19.538406
19 Southeast_English @ 21.003275
20 Serbian @ 23.145561

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Portuguese +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 6.256601


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 6.171642


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Orcadian + Sardinian + Spanish_Murcia + West_German @ 6.148751
2 Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia @ 6.171642
3 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.256601
4 Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.258045
5 Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia @ 6.291696
6 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.298751
7 French + Orcadian + Sardinian + Spanish_Murcia @ 6.332447
8 Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.342164
9 Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.350326
10 Portuguese + Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.358992
11 Orcadian + Sardinian + Spanish_Extremadura + West_German @ 6.360356
12 French + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia @ 6.397124
13 French + Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia @ 6.429242
14 Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.429522
15 French + Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.443729
16 French + Portuguese + Portuguese + Portuguese @ 6.462409
17 French + Orcadian + Portuguese + Sardinian @ 6.466568
18 Sardinian + Spanish_Murcia + West_German + West_Scottish @ 6.468616
19 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia @ 6.473664
20 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.475198


With Medieval samples:

[1] "distance%=2.3586"

Trebaruna

Celtiberian,68
North_African,10.4
Suebi_proxy,10.2
Roman_Imperial_proxy,8.8
Armenia_LBA,2.6

This is Eurogenes K15 not K13 though, but yeah Sean said bullshit about that.

[Autrigón]

Tell that to all those latin mongrels who larp as Iberians on this forum lel.



And they were not genetically Celtic, there's no need for Celticness in Iberia (its alien) and no real desire for it outside of the Galician, Asturian, Northern Portuguese and Cantabrian folk music scene and maybe a few fringist types.



Estimated? Truth is their population didn’t increase at the expense of others actually.

Only among ethnic Catalans does Germanic admixture surpass 5%. Most of Spain and Portugal its under 1%.

Agree there is no need but I don't write the ancient history, you should tell that to the roman historians who documented the facts.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

This is Eurogenes K15 not K13 though, but yeah Sean said bullshit about that.

My bad, it is K15 indeed.

[Nassbean]

Assimilated for most of them ...killed for warriors (not all of them of course).

[mitalit]

Tell that to all those latin mongrels who larp as Iberians on this forum lel.



And they were not genetically Celtic, there's no need for Celticness in Iberia (its alien) and no real desire for it outside of the Galician, Asturian, Northern Portuguese and Cantabrian folk music scene and maybe a few fringist types.



Estimated? Truth is their population didn’t increase at the expense of others actually.

Only among ethnic Catalans does Germanic admixture surpass 5%. Most of Spain and Portugal its under 1%.

My k13
1 North_Atlantic 40.79
2 West_Med 23
3 East_Med 12.74
4 Baltic 12.54
5 West_Asian 4.94
6 Red_Sea 2.11
7 Siberian 1.63
8 Northeast_African 1.37
9 Oceanian 0.87
10 Sub-Saharan 0.01


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.2% Spanish_Andalucia + 35.8% West_German @ 2.05
2 52.9% French + 47.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.26
3 71.6% Spanish_Murcia + 28.4% West_German @ 2.27
4 64.2% Spanish_Andalucia + 35.8% South_Dutch @ 2.3
5 74.5% Spanish_Andalucia + 25.5% North_German @ 2.37
6 71.8% Spanish_Murcia + 28.2% South_Dutch @ 2.47
7 55.7% Spanish_Murcia + 44.3% French @ 2.51
8 80.8% Spanish_Murcia + 19.2% North_German @ 2.6
9 75.2% Spanish_Andalucia + 24.8% Danish @ 2.65
10 75.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 24.9% North_Dutch @ 2.68
11 78.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 21.9% Swedish @ 2.69
12 80.5% Spanish_Andalucia + 19.5% North_Swedish @ 2.77
13 77.3% Spanish_Andalucia + 22.7% Norwegian @ 2.78
14 83.9% Spanish_Murcia + 16.1% Swedish @ 2.86
15 68.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 31.8% West_German @ 2.86
16 81.5% Spanish_Murcia + 18.5% North_Dutch @ 2.87
17 62.2% Portuguese + 37.8% French @ 2.87
18 81.7% Spanish_Murcia + 18.3% Danish @ 2.88
19 69.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 30.3% West_German @ 2.88
20 94.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 5.8% Nogay @ 2.89

[Kamal900]

My girlfriend K13 just to show an example. She is native Portuguese. Does it look at first glance that she would share only 1% of her genomes with Germans?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 26.28
2 Atlantic 25.93
3 West_Med 21.62
4 East_Med 11.54
5 Baltic 4.05
6 Red_Sea 2.59
7 Sub-Saharan 2.58
8 Eastern_Euro 2.36
9 Amerindian 1.19


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Galicia @ 6.350326
2 Portuguese @ 6.546985
3 Spanish_Cataluna @ 8.007100
4 Spanish_Extremadura @ 8.263930
5 Spanish_Murcia @ 8.368540
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 8.840790
7 Spanish_Cantabria @ 11.128245
8 French @ 11.197918
9 Spanish_Valencia @ 11.957701
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 12.208786
11 Spanish_Andalucia @ 13.017864
12 Spanish_Aragon @ 13.114104
13 North_Italian @ 13.176331
14 Southwest_French @ 14.104487
15 South_Dutch @ 16.860746
16 West_German @ 17.891609
17 Southwest_English @ 19.506603
18 Tuscan @ 19.538406
19 Southeast_English @ 21.003275
20 Serbian @ 23.145561

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Portuguese +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 6.256601


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 6.171642


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Orcadian + Sardinian + Spanish_Murcia + West_German @ 6.148751
2 Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia @ 6.171642
3 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.256601
4 Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.258045
5 Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia @ 6.291696
6 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.298751
7 French + Orcadian + Sardinian + Spanish_Murcia @ 6.332447
8 Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.342164
9 Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.350326
10 Portuguese + Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.358992
11 Orcadian + Sardinian + Spanish_Extremadura + West_German @ 6.360356
12 French + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia @ 6.397124
13 French + Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia @ 6.429242
14 Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.429522
15 French + Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.443729
16 French + Portuguese + Portuguese + Portuguese @ 6.462409
17 French + Orcadian + Portuguese + Sardinian @ 6.466568
18 Sardinian + Spanish_Murcia + West_German + West_Scottish @ 6.468616
19 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia @ 6.473664
20 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.475198


With Medieval samples:

[1] "distance%=2.3586"

Trebaruna

Celtiberian,68
North_African,10.4
Suebi_proxy,10.2
Roman_Imperial_proxy,8.8
Armenia_LBA,2.6

Now, that's the most significant NA ancestry I've seen in an Iberian lately.

[gixajo]

And this is my k13...

Population
North_Atlantic 41.06 Pct
Baltic 11.68 Pct
West_Med 30.06 Pct
West_Asian 2.10 Pct
East_Med 7.08 Pct
Red_Sea 5.14 Pct
South_Asian 0.90 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.76 Pct
Northeast_African 1.24 Pct
Sub-Saharan

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Now, that's the most significant NA ancestry I've seen in an Iberian lately.

It is not, completely on average for Western Iberians in this particular model.

[Rocinante]

Introduction of Steppe ancestry in Iberia isn't from Visigoths but much more older than that. Visigoths might had a minor effect though.

I think there are probably also some people with hidden Jewish ancestry in Spain but I haven't seen one honestly (on genetical tests), but must be quite rare.

Steppe in spaniards comes from the celts, no discussion about that.