Why do right-wingers in this forum often like Franco but dislike Peron?

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

So was Franco in fact, albeit to a lesser extent.



Well exactly.

Although his second term end up with several economic problems, he was overthrow with a cup de etat, and his party proscribed during 20 years, even when the peronist come back in 1973, they were in power only until 1976, Is as much their blame as the blame of the militars that erode the argentine democratic institutions.
Also the Argentina from 1930 until 1946 was far from developed, it was ruled by fraudulent conservative governments, and was essentially a British protectorate.

[Tooting Carmen]

Although his second term end up with several economic problems, he was overthrow with a cup de etat, and his party proscribed during 20 years, even when the peronist come back in 1973, they were in power only until 1976, Is as much their blame as the blame of the militars that erode the argentine democratic institutions.
Also the Argentina from 1930 until 1946 was far from developed, it was ruled by fraudulent conservative governments, and was essentially a British protectorate.

Yes and Peron's corporatist policies did a lot to improve the welfare of the poor and abolish unemployment, did they not?

[gixajo]

An independent militarist who succeeded in not allowing communism to take hold in western/southern Europe. Spains Economy was already ruined by that point and he actually built up the economy by making Spain self sufficient but not closing it off to the west, Spain used to make a lot of toys and stuff for the global market as where Argentina isolated.

Yeah, Spain was the 10th world economy during 70´s according to its nominal GDP making a lot of toys and stuff, probably also selling torero hats and flamenco dolls to turist.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Yes and Peron's corporatist policies did a lot to improve the welfare of the poor and abolish unemployment, did they not?

During his first mandate, the economy grow exponentially, but his social policies become non-viable on the long term.
Argentina of the 40s wasn't nazi germany, every body in public administration was corrupt and lazy.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Yeah, Spain was the 10th world economy during 70´s according to its nominal GDP making a lot of toys and stuff, probably also selling torero hats and flamenco dolls to turist.

Spain main exports:

[gixajo]

Spain main exports:
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Surely Rapphael and Nino Bravo contributed also to increase GDP that years.

Imagine the 10th world economy taking siestas everyday, if we don´t take siestas we would be the first one!!!

[Dragoon]

Not only was Franco many times more violent

Sometimes its necessary.

and authoritarian

Good.

Both leaders basically enacted corporatist-third way policies .

Corparatism is quite Catholic along with several other economic policies. You will find many Catholics and indeed most of continental Europe are not as a liberal capitalist as Anglo Protestants (but also not as collectivist as socialists).

Some state intervention, tariffs and small subsidies doesn't make it less right wing.

The idea that free market, laissez faire, free trade liberal economy is right wing is fairly recent thing. Historically protectionism, mercantilism and feudalism were often supported by right wing.

[Tooting Carmen]

Corparatism is quite Catholic along with several other economic policies. You will find many Catholics are not as a liberal capitalist as Protestants but not as collectivist as socialists.

Some state intervention, tariffs and small subsidies doesn't make it less right wing.

Well whether or not you support such economic policies, my main point is that both leaders carried out some variant of the same thing, yet one is often praised by right-wingers while the other is despised.

[gixajo]

During his first mandate, the economy grow exponentially, but his social policies become non-viable on the long term.
Argentina of the 40s wasn't nazi germany, every body in public administration was corrupt and lazy.

Do you think that the Malvinas conflict influenced in change the course of a quite succesful economy to another, no so good one?

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Do you think that the Malvinas conflict influenced in change the course of a quite succesful economy to another, no so good one?

By the Malvinas conflict Do you mean the war of 1982? I dont think so, if anything that war was the final blow that took down the military regime of 1976, the economy and social situation was a total chaos before the war.