Why do right-wingers in this forum often like Franco but dislike Peron?

[gixajo]

By the Malvinas conflict Do you mean the war of 1982? I dont think so, if anything that war was the final blow that took down the military regime of 1976, the economy and social situation was a total chaos before the war.

there was not any type of economical sanctions or any economical blokkade as that war consequence, even under the later democratic governements of Argentina?

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

there was not any type of economical sanctions or any economical blokkade as that war consequence, even under the later democratic governements of Argentina?

Since then the Uk has boycotted argentina militar development, but the Menem administration came to many agreements is commerce and diplomatic relationships.
The Kirchners had a terrible ralationship with the UK.

[gixajo]

Since then the Uk has boycotted argentina militar development, but the Menem administration came to many agreements is commerce and diplomatic relationships.
The Kirchners had a terrible ralationship with the UK.

Did Uk interfered in the normal relationships between Argentina and other countries in order to harm economical progress of Argentina economy or only influence in military stuff boycott?

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Did Uk interfered in the normal relationships between Argentina and other countries in order to harm economical progress of Argentina economy or only influence in military stuff boycott?

They try to boicot atteps of Argentina to adquire new militat technology.

[bandeirante]

Yeah, Spain was the 10th world economy during 70´s according to its nominal GDP making a lot of toys and stuff, probably also selling torero hats and flamenco dolls to turist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...historical_GDP

[PaleoEuropean]

Sometimes its necessary.



Good.



Corparatism is quite Catholic along with several other economic policies. You will find many Catholics and indeed most of continental Europe are not as a liberal capitalist as Anglo Protestants (but also not as collectivist as socialists).

Some state intervention, tariffs and small subsidies doesn't make it less right wing.

The idea that free market, laissez faire, free trade liberal economy is right wing is fairly recent thing. Historically protectionism, mercantilism and feudalism were often supported by right wing.

Right and Left Wing are recent inventions, de-regulation makes money. The terms right and left have little economic meaning anymore. Corporatism and the middle class destroyed the Catholic notion of Feudalism. Catholics did not support Laissez-faire economics or any notion of independence from the church, they only adapted to it to survive the change from Feudalism to Republicanism which is why they supported Fascism and other totalitarianism even liberal movements in South America when it suited them. Libertarianism and individualism are firstly secular and secondly Protestant.

https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/dist...aire-straw-man

"Catholic social teaching has always staked out a middle-ground position that opposes the excesses of collectivism on the one hand, and laissez-faire individualism on the other—the “twin rocks of shipwreck,” as Pope Pius XI put it in Quadragesimo anno (1931)."
https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/papal-economics

[Tooting Carmen]

Right and Left Wing are recent inventions, de-regulation makes money. The terms right and left have little economic meaning anymore. Corporatism and the middle class destroyed the Catholic notion of Feudalism. Catholics did not support Laissez-faire economics or any notion of independence from the church, they only adapted to it to survive the change from Feudalism to Republicanism which is why they supported Fascism and other totalitarianism even liberal movements in South America when it suited them. Libertarianism and individualism are firstly secular and secondly Protestant.

https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/dist...aire-straw-man

"Catholic social teaching has always staked out a middle-ground position that opposes the excesses of collectivism on the one hand, and laissez-faire individualism on the other—the “twin rocks of shipwreck,” as Pope Pius XI put it in Quadragesimo anno (1931)."
https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/papal-economics

Well as someone who left the Catholic church at the age of 12, those are very profound and intelligent articles indeed.

[Erronkari]

Perón was a classic third positionist interventionist in economy but extremely conservative in costumes.
The point is that Perón wasn' t too many positive talking about macro-economic issues, but of course thank to him a lot of working class people improved their situation.
But we need to point that groups who actually say they are Peron's heirs are just liars.
They are not true peronists, the bulk of them are just leftists/postmodernists.

[Tooting Carmen]

Perón was a classic third positionist interventionist in economy but extremely conservative in costumes.

As was Franco. So why do right-wingers here generally have a rather more positive view of Franco than of Peron?

[PaleoEuropean]

Perón was a classic third positionist interventionist in economy but extremely conservative in costumes.
The point is that Perón wasn' t too many positive talking about macro-economic issues, but of course thank to him a lot of working class people improved their situation.
But we need to point that groups who actually say they are Peron's heirs are just liars.
They are not true peronists, the bulk of them are just leftists/postmodernists.

Would you agree with my statement about Perons effects on Argentina's economy?