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    Wink Transylvanian/Romanian GEDmatch Results

    After similar threads for Romania's Moldavia + Republic of Moldova and Wallachia (Muntenia + Oltenia), it is time to take a look at the genetic profile in Transylvania.

    Transylvania, in its broadest term, and the one that I'm using for the purpose of this thread, encompasses the historic regions of:
    • Central and Eastern parts - Transylvania proper
    • Northwestern - Maramures
    • Western - Crisana
    • Southwestern - Banat




    Eurogenes K13 results:
    Yellow - Transylvania proper
    Green - Maramures
    Red - Crisana
    Blue - Banat

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    Great job again, Ion!

    Are you sure Ardelean, Maramures isn't mixed? He is 39% and no other unmixed Transilvanian in the list scores more than 30%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Great job again, Ion!

    Are you sure Ardelean, Maramures isn't mixed? He is 39% and no other unmixed Transilvanian in the list scores more than 30%.
    Yes, I think the same, but I don't have any proofs in this case. The county should also be changed to Satu Mare. I'll fix that in the next update.

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    Amazing work!

    Szekely samples are mixed or fully Hungarian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Est.1992 View Post
    Amazing work!

    Szekely samples are mixed or fully Hungarian?
    No, they are not mixed, at least recently.

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    Ancestry DNA data

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 40.75
    2 Baltic 19.59
    3 West_Med 15.69
    4 East_Med 12.18
    5 West_Asian 9.31
    6 Amerindian 1.06
    7 South_Asian 0.86
    8 Siberian 0.46
    9 Oceanian 0.11

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 West_German 5.22
    2 French 6.49
    3 South_Dutch 6.67
    4 Austrian 10.55
    5 Southeast_English 11.81
    6 North_German 12.38
    7 Spanish_Cataluna 12.71
    8 East_German 12.94
    9 Hungarian 13.46
    10 Southwest_English 13.5
    11 Portuguese 13.61
    12 Danish 13.82
    13 Orcadian 13.89
    14 North_Dutch 13.94
    15 Spanish_Galicia 14.17
    16 Serbian 14.25
    17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 14.27
    18 Irish 14.68
    19 Spanish_Murcia 15.01
    20 West_Scottish 15.08

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 70.7% Southeast_English + 29.3% Central_Greek @ 2.28
    2 67.1% Orcadian + 32.9% Central_Greek @ 2.3
    3 83.7% West_German + 16.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.3
    4 63.8% Orcadian + 36.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.32
    5 69.2% Orcadian + 30.8% South_Italian @ 2.32
    6 86.9% West_German + 13.1% South_Italian @ 2.39
    7 67.6% Southeast_English + 32.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.47
    8 79.1% Southeast_English + 20.9% Cyprian @ 2.49
    9 65.3% West_Scottish + 34.7% Central_Greek @ 2.52
    10 90.6% West_German + 9.4% Cyprian @ 2.53
    11 91.5% West_German + 8.5% Armenian @ 2.55
    12 65.9% Irish + 34.1% Central_Greek @ 2.55
    13 86.1% West_German + 13.9% Central_Greek @ 2.59
    14 69.2% North_Dutch + 30.8% South_Italian @ 2.6
    15 91.6% West_German + 8.4% Assyrian @ 2.61
    16 76.2% Orcadian + 23.8% Cyprian @ 2.63
    17 68% Irish + 32% South_Italian @ 2.64
    18 72.7% Southeast_English + 27.3% South_Italian @ 2.66
    19 69.4% Danish + 30.6% South_Italian @ 2.66
    20 88.8% West_German + 11.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.66

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    No, they are not mixed, at least recently.
    Just like I guessed. I am suprised how high in Baltic they are, also other Transylvanian Hungarians, pretty different from local Romanians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Est.1992 View Post
    Just like I guessed. I am suprised how high in Baltic they are, also other Transylvanian Hungarians, pretty different from local Romanians.
    In the past, religion used to segregate people, so Romanians generally didn't mix with Hungarians and the mountainous terrain additionally helped to create a barrier between the two. Nowadays it's obviously different.

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    IrisSelene (imputed V3 kit)

    Population
    North_Atlantic 23.62 Pct
    Baltic 30.49 Pct
    West_Med 16.36 Pct
    West_Asian 11.74 Pct
    East_Med 13.78 Pct
    Red_Sea 0.35 Pct
    South_Asian 0.64 Pct
    East_Asian 0.75 Pct
    Siberian 1.57 Pct
    Amerindian 0.47 Pct
    Oceanian -
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    Sub-Saharan 0.23 Pct

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    Relative from Fagaras, Brasov. Full Transylvanian to the best of my knowledge.

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 25.07
    2 Baltic 23.78
    3 West_Med 16.99
    4 East_Med 16.06
    5 West_Asian 11.66
    6 Red_Sea 2.05
    7 South_Asian 1.78
    8 Amerindian 0.87
    9 Siberian 0.85
    10 Oceanian 0.65
    11 Sub-Saharan 0.19
    12 Northeast_African 0.05

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Romanian 2.35
    2 Serbian 4.62
    3 Bulgarian 4.89
    4 Moldavian 10.26
    5 Hungarian 12.03
    6 Greek_Thessaly 12.18
    7 Croatian 13.07
    8 Austrian 14.38
    9 North_Italian 15.33
    10 Tuscan 16.02
    11 East_German 16.31
    12 Italian_Abruzzo 17.56
    13 West_German 17.66
    14 French 18.06
    15 Central_Greek 18.88
    16 South_Dutch 19.24
    17 West_Sicilian 19.29
    18 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.52
    19 Portuguese 19.64
    20 Spanish_Galicia 20.08

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 97.5% Romanian + 2.5% Brahmin_UP @ 1.83
    2 97.2% Romanian + 2.8% Punjabi_Jat @ 1.86
    3 97.7% Romanian + 2.3% Gujarati @ 1.88
    4 97.7% Romanian + 2.3% Kshatriya @ 1.88
    5 98% Romanian + 2% Kanjar @ 1.91
    6 98% Romanian + 2% Dharkar @ 1.91
    7 98% Romanian + 2% Uttar_Pradesh @ 1.91
    8 98.1% Romanian + 1.9% Kurumba @ 1.91
    9 63.4% Moldavian + 36.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.91
    10 98.1% Romanian + 1.9% Kol @ 1.92
    11 95.3% Romanian + 4.7% Irish @ 1.92
    12 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% Piramalai @ 1.93
    13 97.8% Romanian + 2.2% Bangladeshi @ 1.93
    14 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% Dusadh @ 1.93
    15 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Sakilli @ 1.93
    16 95.5% Romanian + 4.5% West_Scottish @ 1.93
    17 97.4% Romanian + 2.6% Kalash @ 1.93
    18 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% North_Kannadi @ 1.94
    19 98.3% Romanian + 1.7% Chamar @ 1.94
    20 98.2% Romanian + 1.8% Velamas @ 1.94

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